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 Post subject: Autogear box shudder
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:16 am 
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Ok. I know this topic has been covered before alot, but i want my specific problems identifyed

I believe its just s**t fluid

When warm it will slip gears n shunt if over about 1500RPM
Few months ago after going to nowra the transmission cooked the oil and came out sumhow a frozen coke from maccas kinda look but was topped up to get home but i jus did a pan change but oil still looks brownish im jus wondering if its the bands s5 or just oil, idnt wanna flush it to find out its the bands n have to buy more fluid again for bands n s5 i plan on getting the guys from bullit transmissions to lOok at it

How much will this cost to fix ?
I kno a flush is about $120 to diy

But how much are bands and s5 to b done also can i do them myself
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 Post subject: Re: Autogear box shudder
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:57 am 
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StevenBruzz wrote:
Ok. I know this topic has been covered before alot, but i want my specific problems identifyed

I believe its just s**t fluid

When warm it will slip gears n shunt if over about 1500RPM
Few months ago after going to nowra the transmission cooked the oil and came out sumhow a frozen coke from maccas kinda look but was topped up to get home but i jus did a pan change but oil still looks brownish im jus wondering if its the bands s5 or just oil, idnt wanna flush it to find out its the bands n have to buy more fluid again for bands n s5 i plan on getting the guys from bullit transmissions to lOok at it

How much will this cost to fix ?
I kno a flush is about $120 to diy

But how much are bands and s5 to b done also can i do them myself


the solenoid you can shange yourself, the bands you cannot. I just had a box built and pickied it up yesterday, BUT for a 6 banger falcon, the boxes were about $900 exchange, some times its worth finding a known good box and dropping that in instead. gotta justify the expence of a box when secondhand ones are dirt cheap.

With the solenoid, I would still pay a transmission guy to do it. I hate all things to do with auto gearboxes!

 

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 Post subject: Re: Autogear box shudder
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:34 am 
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Okay, I'll bite.
How on earth does an auto transmission 'cook' the oil?
I can understand it if towing a heavy caravan up a steep hill in 40 degree heat, but on a trip to Nowra?
Was the oil crap to begin with? Poor auto service history? Design fault?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGkG0fZbprk

 

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 Post subject: Re: Autogear box shudder
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:35 pm 
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Okay, I'll bite.
How on earth does an auto transmission 'cook' the oil?
I can understand it if towing a heavy caravan up a steep hill in 40 degree heat, but on a trip to Nowra?
Was the oil crap to begin with? Poor auto service history? Design fault?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGkG0fZbprk


No towing i believe it was just dirty oil from previous owner and it sumhow got air into it when it leaked but yeah it was a frothy brown

So is it worth getting the s5 replaced, and can i test it now to see if its faulty without dismanteling the car
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 Post subject: Re: Autogear box shudder
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:51 pm 
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sounds like an s5. I have the same problem in my box and the previous box i had. Apparently if they get too hot the s5 dies creating harsh shifts and slipping. A good tell tale sign is if the box is fine when cold and misbehaves when at operating temp. You are looking at $400-$500 for a mechanic to replace the s5. If you leave it too long it will deteriorate and damage other driveline parts. My last one was average when i bought the car and near un-driveable within a year.
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 Post subject: Re: Autogear box shudder
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:34 am 
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yeah cheers thats exactly it it sounds like it locks the diff up n then the wheels grab had a few times its spun i jus dunno how imms go when cops see happening?
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:38 am 
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Did the pan look like this........

 

 

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:27 am 
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I didn do the change but il b doin a flush soon
So what if there is metal in it

f**k ayy?
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:19 pm 
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I didn do the change but il b doin a flush soon
So what if there is metal in it

f**k ayy?


This auto was a bit noisy in the planetry's.....it's bushing material.

Have you checked the slop in the slip yoke bush in the back of the tranny.????

 

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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:29 pm 
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Havent had on hoist yet
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