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 Post subject: best brake upgrade
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 9:08 pm 
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im looking at getting a brake upgrade in the next few weeks and have been looking around so far ive only frounf they race brakes sydney and to upc kit that ive been told to stacey away from,but with the RBS kit people have said that they use the same type of rotor as the el gt and that they are getting had to get,i dont know how true this is but yer.


my question is what the best 330mm 2 spot kit out there i want somethink that has a slip on/off rotor and not the hub style like the RBS one.what kit have you got are would recommend i get.

HAS TO BE E SERIES OFF SET
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 Post subject: Re: best brake upgrade
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:25 am 
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RBS should be able to do the saloon car style setup, using the mustang 330mm slip on with a custom hub and a C4 or C5 caliper.
its what Cebco used to do.
speak to race brakes melbourne too (different company to RBS).

 

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 Post subject: Re: best brake upgrade
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:38 am 
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why did they say stay away from upc brake set up??
has every thing u want and uses pbr commodore calipers so get pads and parts is cheap and easy to get and rotors will always be available.....if not here in the states

 

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 Post subject: Re: best brake upgrade
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 1:56 pm 
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XTT909 wrote:
why did they say stay away from upc brake set up??
has every thing u want and uses pbr commodore calipers so get pads and parts is cheap and easy to get and rotors will always be available.....if not here in the states


Because, unless they have changed their design, the kit drastically altered the hub face position compared to factory. Ended up being somewhere between E series and AU spec, but closer to AU.

You couldn't use E-series wheels as they would stick too far out of the body and AU would sit too far inboard.

I thought they made a kit in the end that made the hub face sit in an AU position so you could use AU offset rims... But obviously not what svo_matt wants.
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 Post subject: Re: best brake upgrade
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:15 pm 
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If you want "exact" e-series offset then the UPC Kit won't meet your requirements

I have the MR-Spares - UPC Kit on my car but I have the AU Kit with AU Offset Wheels

UPC's Kit comes in two offset's +20 & +28

E-Series Wheels are usually +0 to +6
AU+ Wheels are usually +35

So if you fit AU +35 Offset Wheels with the UPC MR-Spares +28 kit then wheels end up being +7mm track difference

Now if you fit +6 Offset Copy Rims to your E-Series the difference in Track between the kit and this set up is +1mm - bugger all and nothing to cry about

Dont see anyone having issues with E-Series Copy Wheels (BA XR8, GTP, Cobra, Typhoon, Dark Argent etc etc these are all +6 offset for e-series) on their cars and complaining that their track is +6 off on each side so whats another +1

But Yeah if you want "exact" eseries offset then dont use the UPC Mr-Spares Kit

 

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 Post subject: Re: best brake upgrade
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 3:30 pm 
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Race brakes melbourne can help

UPC kit is alright but if a brake upgrade shop carnt get offset and wheel track right i have no confidence in there product what so ever.

 

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 Post subject: Re: best brake upgrade
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 3:34 pm 
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and if the OP has a set of E-Series wheels that he likes, how will that work with the UPC kit?

 

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 Post subject: Re: best brake upgrade
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 3:35 pm 
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MICKYYYY wrote:
UPC kit is alright but if a brake upgrade shop carnt get offset and wheel track right i have no confidence in there product what so ever.


Wow... Thats a turnaround and a half.. I remember you being a big big supporter of the UPC stuff.
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 Post subject: Re: best brake upgrade
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:32 pm 
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XTT909 wrote:
why did they say stay away from upc brake set up??
has every thing u want and uses pbr commodore calipers so get pads and parts is cheap and easy to get and rotors will always be available.....if not here in the states

i know you have the upc kit trent but running a +35 rim ive spoken to them and they said that you have to get a few mm taken off the inside of the rim and thats not going to happen.if they can make a kit in the proper off set then ill buy it but dont really want to take the chance.



does any one know the truth behind the hub slyle rotors are going to be come hard to get in the next few years.


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MICKYYYY wrote:
UPC kit is alright but if a brake upgrade shop carnt get offset and wheel track right i have no confidence in there product what so ever.


Wow... Thats a turnaround and a half.. I remember you being a big big supporter of the UPC stuff.


i think mick had never been a fan of the upc kit

 

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 Post subject: Re: best brake upgrade
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:09 pm 
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i hear from a supplier that DBA EL GT rotors are discontinued and no longer available????
and that was last year about november

 

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 Post subject: Re: best brake upgrade
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 11:00 pm 
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i know you have the upc kit trent but running a +35 rim ive spoken to them and they said that you have to get a few mm taken off the inside of the rim and thats not going to happen.if they can make a kit in the proper off set then ill buy it but dont really want to take the chance.
That may be the case if you run the UPC +20 kit with AU+ wheels? but why would you run the UPC +20 kit when the UPC +28 kit works perfect with AU+ Wheels as per my prev post - i dont understand that logic?

 

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 Post subject: Re: best brake upgrade
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:07 am 
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XTT909 wrote:
i hear from a supplier that DBA EL GT rotors are discontinued and no longer available????
and that was last year about november

Theres been rumours about that for a pretty long time.
They are still listed in DBAs catalogue.
Not that it means much, but it doesn't make sense to me for them to discontinue them when they do a hundred and one other rotors for weird and wonderful s**t that no one buys?
f**k Alfas and s**t :lol:

Both RBS and Race Brakes Melbourne do kits using the slip-on 330mm Mustang rotor anyway.

 

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 Post subject: Re: best brake upgrade
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:17 am 
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Give Matt a a call at Race Brakes Sydney, I was pretty sure that he uses ELGT rotors and AU calipers in his 2 piston front setup as they are easier to source. Race Brakes Melbourne use (or use to use) Mustang rotors and they are the guys that bought Cebco.

 

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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:30 pm 
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i know you have the upc kit trent but running a +35 rim ive spoken to them and they said that you have to get a few mm taken off the inside of the rim and thats not going to happen.if they can make a kit in the proper off set then ill buy it but dont really want to take the chance.
That may be the case if you run the UPC +20 kit with AU+ wheels? but why would you run the UPC +20 kit when the UPC +28 kit works perfect with AU+ Wheels as per my prev post - i dont understand that logic?


i dont have +35 wheels i still have the e series off set wheels.

well call rack brakes sydney and melbourne to day and i think ill got with RBM for the kit.matt at sydney wasnt very nice on the phone so he can get stuffed.

thanks for your help guys

 

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 Post subject: Re: best brake upgrade
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:59 pm 
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Im pretty sure the RBS kit dosent use the DBA slotted rotor but uses another brand which i havent tracked down AS YET :D but i have found another company that do the EL GT rotor in just plain non slotted or drilled.

Personally id go slip on matt as there cheaper and u can find some sick rotors from the US that u can buy.

 

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