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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:54 pm 
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Can someone provide a photo (or photos) of where the clutch cable is supposed to go for E-Series I6s with BBMs please? I'm finishing a manual conversion & EF motor install at the moment. There's nothing in my 2 repair manuals, I can't find anything with internet searches and don't know anyone with a manual E-series. I thought it would go over the top of the rocker cover and between the BBM intake runners, but then some photos I've seen show it disappearing under the exhaust manifold somewhere.

I also have an L shaped bracket which holds the clutch cable in place somewhere (off an ED XR6). The wreckers didn't say where it goes unfortunately. Not sure if I throw it away, or try to adapt it.

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 Post subject: Re: Clutch cable route?
Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:59 pm 
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Clutch cable on mine heads forward a little towards shock tower, ducks under extractors, through the steering rack (well, not THROUGH steering rack completely, but between a couple of pipes / connectors) and comes up just behind K frame to the bellhousing....

If it works, it works... I've only done two, but from what I can make out anyone with an ounce of common sense shouldn't cause the cable to melt, snap or get pinched..........
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 4:28 pm 
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yep, between the two hoes/connections on the power steering rack is a good place to route the cable
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:15 pm 
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I don't run them near the rack....too many sharp angles, I run them under the engine sump just in front of the crossmember and bring it up to the cable support bracket. It's a way smoother path, looks odd, but feels better, and the cables last longer.

 

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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:10 am 
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Thanks for the info chaps. I'll try both setups and see how it looks. I've read about cables causing the firewall to crack when they don't move freely. Any ideas where the bracket goes?

 

 

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That bracket goes in the spare parts bin. :oops:

CJH - Is that an EF or EL you're running the cable under the sump and up in front of the cross member??? Initially I tried that with mine, but the clearances there were just not that fantastic... How mine goes around the extractors and all that seems like the best, did your cable come with a couple of sliding plastic sleeves that you can position anywhere on the cable and cable tie to something nearby?
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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:46 am 
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I you don't want to put the bracket in spare parts bin, you could try seeing if it fits anywhere on the bellhousing to keep the cable out the front.... :D

Mine went in the spare parts bin.
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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 2:01 pm 
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OK, thanks fiend. This is the first clutch cable I've had to run under the sump. All the other manual RWD cars I've owned had clutch cables over the rocker cover.

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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:45 pm 
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Thanks for the info chaps. I'll try both setups and see how it looks. I've read about cables causing the firewall to crack when they don't move freely. Any ideas where the bracket goes?


That is the support for the clutch cable. It bolts to the bellhousing. You cannot get them from Ford anymore ( ONR ).
The firewall can crack from an incorrectly adjusted clutch cable ( the usual cause ).

 

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That bracket goes in the spare parts bin. :oops:

CJH - Is that an EF or EL you're running the cable under the sump and up in front of the cross member??? Initially I tried that with mine, but the clearances there were just not that fantastic... How mine goes around the extractors and all that seems like the best, did your cable come with a couple of sliding plastic sleeves that you can position anywhere on the cable and cable tie to something nearby?


I have done it to EA to EL.

 

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Hmmm - Honestly, I was following the same route to your advice as I was under the car looking at it from bellhousing point of view, but... Someone suggested this other way, and it worked out just as good really. No way it's going to kink, sharp bends, nothing...

Plus, it doesn't go anywhere near the bottom of the sump or K-frame (both of which have been smashed into new shapes by landing on them hard.....)
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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 9:18 pm 
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Hmmm - Honestly, I was following the same route to your advice as I was under the car looking at it from bellhousing point of view, but... Someone suggested this other way, and it worked out just as good really. No way it's going to kink, sharp bends, nothing...

Plus, it doesn't go anywhere near the bottom of the sump or K-frame (both of which have been smashed into new shapes by landing on them hard.....)


Its not under the sump, but at the back of the lower part of the sump, under that bit. Again, no kinks, or sharp bends.
You should see how Ford did it with the XG utes, it was put through the guts of the engine crossmember, talk about ugly, kinks & sharp bends....it was total crap.

 

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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 9:31 pm 
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Yeah, I can guess at what you mean there!

The best route for a cable I have seen is a 3 metre long special that goes to the radiator, around front of engine bay in a big open arc and straight down beside block to the bellhousing. Now that looked the business alright. He had also moved the penetration through the firewall up and made a little straighter and... Well... It looked pretty damn good. Two big straights joined by one big sweeping corner with a foot attached to one end and a throwout bearing attached to the other....

Anyways - Sounds like EF / EL cables are a little longer, so just remember to buy those ones and have a decent choice of routes. Anyone with an ounce of common sense should be able to work out a decent enough way to get from A to B....
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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 9:57 pm 
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here ya go.. (EF/EL)

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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 10:02 pm 
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You know what? Out of all of those bits I only used a (2) CLUTCH CABLE?

Everything else has been fabricated by myself out of hunks of plate steel, etc etc etc?! Even the connection between the pedal and the cable is completely different. :|

Also, not too sure how the original route would work with the particular extractors involved?...

Well, that is that. Done and dusted. What is that book called, and where can I flog one from?
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