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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:27 pm 
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Was speaking to Phong tonight and we had a giggle over my factory rims and why I have traction issues. I said I enjoy the sleeper look and for that reason I haven't bothered with getting some proper aftermarket rims. He said something I hadn't considered before which was to make my factory rims wider than the measly 5.5" size that they are now. I guess at least that way the car still looks factory but I can throw some wider rubber on the rears and not have to be gentle on the pedal when I want to go hard.
Who / what where etc would be able to custom widen some factory rims as per my gallery photo?
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:30 pm 
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If the rims get widened, how strong are they compared to aftermarket rims? Can they take the same sort of abuse?

 

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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:58 pm 
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Ash, I might have a chat with them. It's a topic I haven't researched before so it's interesting.

 

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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:02 pm 
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one of my old friends dad had his vs rims widened by 2 inches they have broken yet and its been over 4 years now
he has both the cop rims and alloys done
price/who/where cant help you sorry
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:09 pm 
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Jonathan Kakousidis wrote:
one of my old friends dad had his vs rims widened by 2 inches they have broken yet and its been over 4 years now

Sorry, do you mean they have or haven't broken yet?

 

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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:15 pm 
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sorry missed 2 letters :roll:
they havent broken yet

yeah he is running 285 on a 15 inch rim only on the rears
hard to tell their not stock unless your behind him
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 12:14 pm 
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A good wheel repair shop/machining/welding shop would be able to do it like everyone else has said BUT its illegal to Structurally alter wheels like that - with steelies the centres can be removed and fitted to new bands. but a properly done wheel would be perfectly fine and since ford factory rims are made of simple non treated alloys they are easy to weld - wheras fancy alloys and forged rims should NEVER be welded. you will need another pair of the factory wheels as its easier to cut each one an inch from the centre (opposite sides of centreline) and weld them together for a 2 inch inrease than it is to add a band down the middle (with two welds), and that way the guy TIG welding them has some of the correct alloy to use as a filler rod.

 

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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 12:25 pm 
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Eastern wheel works in lilydale can do it.
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 3:30 pm 
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Ash wrote:
I'm not sure if this is exactyl correct with alloy but isn't the weld the strongest part?

Yes for steel, no for Aluminium. Also depends on the base metal and the filler metal used.
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 3:11 pm 
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Hey im keen on having this done to my factory rims also, although i live in auckland NZ, so if anyone from over here that knows of anything please let me know, cheers!

 

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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 5:59 pm 
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Well Ash it all depends on the material. With plain carbon steels, yes the weld is the strongest part. But once you move onto quenched and tempered steels like Bisaloy, which is a very tough but brittle material, the heat affected zone is the weakest part.

As for aluminium and its alloys, if you don't know the exact grade of ally then you normally weld with 1000 series natural aluminium filler rods. These are rather soft compared to what you are trying to weld. This helps against crack propagation but being soft it not as strong as the parent metal. I've got a few lists of what goes with what lying around somewhere, try and dig them up for you one day.
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:35 pm 
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If you paid attention you'd be on 300k by now and telling me what to do :lol:
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 8:09 am 
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You guys make me cry talking about having access to workshops that can actually do more than weld a gusset into a tinny...

Here in the deep north if you try asking places about repairing or modifying wheels they pull out a chewwy bakky bag and reach fer the banjo before saying "you wanna do WHUT!" :roll:

Called a place thats in the book under "wheel repairs" about repairing a mag with a small bit knocked out of the rim - and when he realised I meant there was actually a small piece MISSING it was like I wanted to have a plasma injector out of my warp engine repaired. Evidently their concept of "wheel repair" didn't go beyond belting out gutter dings with a big hammer...

 

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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:36 pm 
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Wheels Australia do repair work, and could probably widen up some steel rims by removing the center & fitting to a new "rim" piece wider than stock. It was commonly done back in the 70's & 80's. How else do you get 8 inch wide early holden steel rims, when they were like 4 or 4.5 inch wide from GMH? lol.

Some 15x9 or 10 steel wheels would be good for some drag radials......

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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 11:33 pm 
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Just noticed this thread...

Vic, I forgot to tell you about this place...

NEWAY WHEEL REPAIRS

11 Beatrice Ave, Heidelberg West, VIC 3081
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p: 03 94573141

I have heard good things about them in regards to repairing bent/cracked wheels for both 2 wheels and 4. Haven't used them myself...was going to but they couldn't save my severely bent bike wheel. They seemed busy though last time I was there, so there may be a wait.

 

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