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 Post subject: disc and pad removal and installation
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:48 am 
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Hi guys, i have a terrible crunching or scraping noise coming from my brakes (im pretty sure) as it occurs when i am braking. when i am driving at speed it doesnt make any sounds, but when i am comming to a complete stop it starts to make the grinding or crunching sound. Could my pads be so worn that it is like a metal on metal noise?

If so does anyone have a walkthrough on removing and installing discs and pads?

Thanks heaps guys

Ps: i drive an el fairmont ghia
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 Post subject: Re: disc and pad removal and installation
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:53 am 
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This happened in the workshop yesterday, and it was because the rotors were wrong.
We put them on thinking they were the exact same size etc.

Perhaps you've got the wrong rotors?

Either that or you've got something stuck in between your pads and rotors.

 

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 Post subject: Re: disc and pad removal and installation
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:08 am 
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oh ok i didnt even think there could be something stuck. Ive had the rotors on for a good 2 years now so it would be weird for them to just suddenly start making that noise wouldnt it? and how do i remove the pads enough to see if something is stuck between them and the rotor?

thanks for your help mate and would it be very rare for it to be metal on metal?

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 Post subject: Re: disc and pad removal and installation
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:47 am 
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Pull the wheels off and have a look.....if it needs pads, then make sure the caliper slides are free, and change the brake fluid too.

 

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 Post subject: Re: disc and pad removal and installation
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:44 pm 
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souds like you got a tiny stone caught in the pad, my eb was makeing the same noise when i got it, changed the pads and machined the rotors and it's all quiet and smooth now but gotta do the rears some idiot at the mechanics done the hand brake up and went for a drive cooked the fluid and pads in the rear now the rears dnt work at all so it's flat surface and park or hill brick uder wheel and park.
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 Post subject: Re: disc and pad removal and installation
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:25 am 
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thats unlucky mate no good at all. So how do i get the brake pads off to have a look if there is anything in there? Never really touched brakes b4 lol
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 Post subject: Re: disc and pad removal and installation
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:04 pm 
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undo he 2 bolts holding the calliper on and slide it upwards till it pops off then pull the pas out and have a look.
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 Post subject: Re: disc and pad removal and installation
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:21 pm 
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Nathanhrv wrote:
Hi guys, i have a terrible crunching or scraping noise coming from my brakes (im pretty sure) as it occurs when i am braking. when i am driving at speed it doesnt make any sounds, but when i am comming to a complete stop it starts to make the grinding or crunching sound. Could my pads be so worn that it is like a metal on metal noise?

If so does anyone have a walkthrough on removing and installing discs and pads?

Thanks heaps guys

Ps: i drive an el fairmont ghia


When was the last time the pads were changed?
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 Post subject: Re: disc and pad removal and installation
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:23 am 
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probably 2 years ago swc, possibly a bit longer. They shouldnt be too badly gone should they?

Papa smurf suggested it could be my wheel bearing stuffed, i am leaning away from a brake issue now as yesterday the same grinding noise happened when i came to a complete stop like it does on occassion, but when i accelerated slowly the noise was still there, so even when the brakes werent on it made it.

So wheel bearing seems more likely at the moment.

Any ideas?
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 Post subject: Re: disc and pad removal and installation
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:35 am 
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At 2 years, assuming that the car is an every day driver, depending on your braking habits and the type of pad used, I think there is a good chance that your pads are shagged.

If you have never done this before, get someone who has to help you, also get a Workshop Manual.

If you have been getting this noise fro a while then there is a good chance that your discs will be scored and will need machining. Depending on the wear on discs and the thickness, they may need to be replaced.

If Papa is correct and there is a good chance he is after your post in the other thread, you will need to replace the wheel bearings and cones. Again if you have never done this before, get some one that knows to help you or pay someone to do it. I would recommend using Timken Bearing kit, one of the best around IMO.
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 Post subject: Re: disc and pad removal and installation
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:37 am 
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Thanks a lot for that SWC, i know i will have to get my discs machined at the least as i have a distinct brake shudder at the moment. Now to find someone willing to lend a helping hand!

Thanks for that mate
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 Post subject: Re: disc and pad removal and installation
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:26 pm 
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i now my handbrake in the eb used to stick slightly especially when stopping and starting. i wound the buggers off untill the hand brake didnt work then retightened it till it grabbed enough to hold the car, that could possibly be an issue haveing a sticking pad. not a very common thing to happen but depending on the type of brand the pad is it could just have a handfull of brake dust stuck there.
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 Post subject: Re: disc and pad removal and installation
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:17 pm 
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cozza88 wrote:
i now my handbrake in the eb used to stick slightly especially when stopping and starting. i wound the buggers off untill the hand brake didnt work then retightened it till it grabbed enough to hold the car, that could possibly be an issue haveing a sticking pad. not a very common thing to happen but depending on the type of brand the pad is it could just have a handfull of brake dust stuck there.


1) the EF/EL's do not use the brake pads for the hand brake, theu have seperate brake shoes.

2) He is talking about the front, not the rear.
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 Post subject: Re: disc and pad removal and installation
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:44 am 
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i know that im just throwing out possibilities to eliminate all things if one thing does not work.
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 Post subject: Re: disc and pad removal and installation
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:48 am 
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found the problem guys, the inner brake pad was absolutely shagged and ive taken a layer off the disc/rotor, hows that for free machinning haha. So if anyone needs their discs machined just put ur rotor on my car and my pads will take an inner layer off for ya ha. all seriousness now gotta find out whether they can be machined or if i need a new disc, ive alrdy got the new pads so all shuld b sweet soon enuff.

Money is a bit tight at the moment, but would it be recommended that if i need to replace one disc that i should replace both? or it doesnt matter too much?

Thanks SWC and everyone else for posting in the thread much appreciated
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