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 Post subject: do stearing racks need to be centred?
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 12:13 pm 
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hello peoples, i've got a ea s pac, i put a ef k frame in it for the beafer lower control arms, worked well, after change the stearing wheel was not centred, after wheel alinment stearing wheel is centred, but it vears to the left, i'm wondering if the rack is not centred? any advice will be apreciated.
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 3:45 pm 
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hello peoples, i've got a ea s pac, i put a ef k frame in it for the beafer lower control arms, worked well, after change the stearing wheel was not centred, after wheel alinment stearing wheel is centred, but it vears to the left, i'm wondering if the rack is not centred? any advice will be apreciated.


the steering rack bolts up onto the k frame with 2 bolts. And if done up correctly the rack should be right, I suggest going back to whence you got the wheel alignment and cause looks like didn't do it correctly/.

 

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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 4:55 pm 
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I'm pretty sure they can just adjust the toe so the steering wheel is straight, without sorting the rest of the settings out. You need to find a place to do it properly. Good luck :?
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:36 pm 
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thats the thing i've had 3 alinments doné differant places, every time palls to the left, eg if you put your stearing wheel on of centre then got wheel alinment would'nt that make the rack not centred? in the middle ect?
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:55 pm 
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thats the thing i've had 3 alinments doné differant places, every time palls to the left, eg if you put your stearing wheel on of centre then got wheel alinment would'nt that make the rack not centred? in the middle ect?

jack the front up and turn the wheel to both locks and see if it travels the same,or locks up on the inner guards,take some measurements.you may have to remove the yoke on the rack to steering shaft to find centre,then check the alinment.most check the turn on both locks when they do the alinment and centre the wheel,how was the castor \camber deg.s,do you need a castor kit to fix it?

 

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Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 12:30 am 
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jack the front up and turn the wheel to both locks and see if it travels the same,or locks up on the inner guards,take some measurements.you may have to remove the yoke on the rack to steering shaft to find centre,then check the alinment.most check the turn on both locks when they do the alinment and centre the wheel,how was the castor \camber deg.s,do you need a castor kit to fix it


thats a good idear lock to lock,will check that, can do that with stearing wheel?
they never mentioned it needing a camber/castor kit.
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 12:30 am 
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hans hartman wrote:
jack the front up and turn the wheel to both locks and see if it travels the same,or locks up on the inner guards,take some measurements.you may have to remove the yoke on the rack to steering shaft to find centre,then check the alinment.most check the turn on both locks when they do the alinment and centre the wheel,how was the castor \camber deg.s,do you need a castor kit to fix it


thats a good idear lock to lock,will check that, can do that with stearing wheel?
they never mentioned it needing a camber/castor kit.
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:42 pm 
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jack the front up and turn the wheel to both locks and see if it travels the same,or locks up on the inner guards,take some measurements.you may have to remove the yoke on the rack to steering shaft to find centre,then check the alinment.most check the turn on both locks when they do the alinment and centre the wheel,how was the castor \camber deg.s,do you need a castor kit to fix it


thats a good idear lock to lock,will check that, can do that with stearing wheel?
they never mentioned it needing a camber/castor kit.

yes with the weight off the wheels it will turn easy with the steering wheel,did they give you a print out of the wheel alinment,my guys do.i can then check and talk to them about about,excessive wear or worn out parts,and whats needed to fix it.

 

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Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 8:19 pm 
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8 out of 10 EA Falcon's needed a camber/castor kit.

 

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Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 12:42 pm 
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MadMatt wrote:
8 out of 10 EA Falcon's needed a camber/castor kit.


oh great! serpose they are the first batch of the e series :cry:

well i discussed the situation with the wheel alinment ''technition''
and he drove my car and he thinks its mostly got toe out since the last wheel alinment
indercated by feathered iner tread. BUT he noticed it pulling to the left also.
he said it shouldn't need to be internally centred when a car pulls to a side its from
one of the wheels further back than the other, like on a skate board when you turn.
BUT i checked if the rack was internally centred and it aint! so before wheel alinment is done AGAIN
i'll make sure the rack is centred. will let you all know how it goes.

thanks for all you're input members
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 2:33 pm 
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falconhell80 wrote:
MadMatt wrote:
8 out of 10 EA Falcon's needed a camber/castor kit.


BUT he noticed it pulling to the left also.
he said it shouldn't need to be internally centred when a car pulls to a side its from
one of the wheels further back than the other, like on a skate board when you turn.


Has your car ever had any damage to the front suspension, or been in a accident?

 

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Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 7:22 pm 
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Shortshift wrote:
falconhell80 wrote:
MadMatt wrote:
8 out of 10 EA Falcon's needed a camber/castor kit.


BUT he noticed it pulling to the left also.
he said it shouldn't need to be internally centred when a car pulls to a side its from
one of the wheels further back than the other, like on a skate board when you turn.


Has your car ever had any damage to the front suspension, or been in a accident?

not that i can tell, looks all original under the bonnet, rear/left corner has repair work, the wheel arches havent been spread.
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 8:55 pm 
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falconhell80 wrote:
Shortshift wrote:
falconhell80 wrote:
MadMatt wrote:
8 out of 10 EA Falcon's needed a camber/castor kit.


BUT he noticed it pulling to the left also.
he said it shouldn't need to be internally centred when a car pulls to a side its from
one of the wheels further back than the other, like on a skate board when you turn.


Has your car ever had any damage to the front suspension, or been in a accident?

not that i can tell, looks all original under the bonnet, rear/left corner has repair work, the wheel arches havent been spread.

do these ---------experts drive the car before and after they FIXED IT?mine are laser checked to the rear-diff.there are very small variations from both sides-bush wear.your k-frame may not be square to the chassis,but it would have shown up 3 times.there is a funny thing going,1 they can adjust the parts to do the job but cant replace them 2 they can do everything and do a good job-licences for 1 or 2,so if they have 1 they go as close as they can with the car as is,specs vary for the same car.post the 3 settings they gave you.

 

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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:29 pm 
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do these ---------experts drive the car before and after they FIXED IT?mine are laser checked to the rear-diff.there are very small variations from both sides-bush wear.your k-frame may not be square to the chassis,but it would have shown up 3 times.there is a funny thing going,1 they can adjust the parts to do the job but cant replace them 2 they can do everything and do a good job-licences for 1 or 2,so if they have 1 they go as close as they can with the car as is,specs vary for the same car.post the 3 settings they gave you.[/quote]

hey hans hartman they never gave me a print out of the alinment?? might be time to find a new place to do it?

got the wheel alinment done today.... not too bad still has a slight pull to the left :cry:
see if it gets any worse again, got them to check the front end, the only problem they found was the lower balljoints boots are gone but are ok[witch i already new] and the bushes for the top of the strut weren't the best, sooo what to do now? how can you check if the front end is square?
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:39 pm 
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falconhell80 wrote:
do these ---------experts drive the car before and after they FIXED IT?mine are laser checked to the rear-diff.there are very small variations from both sides-bush wear.your k-frame may not be square to the chassis,but it would have shown up 3 times.there is a funny thing going,1 they can adjust the parts to do the job but cant replace them 2 they can do everything and do a good job-licences for 1 or 2,so if they have 1 they go as close as they can with the car as is,specs vary for the same car.post the 3 settings they gave you.


hey hans hartman they never gave me a print out of the alinment?? might be time to find a new place to do it?

got the wheel alinment done today.... not too bad still has a slight pull to the left :cry:
see if it gets any worse again, got them to check the front end, the only problem they found was the lower balljoints boots are gone but are ok[witch i already new] and the bushes for the top of the strut weren't the best, sooo what to do now? how can you check if the front end is square?[/quote]they adjusted it to the worn parts,so could be square,get a mate to follow you and see if the car drives straight-----------no print out? any warranty on it? i get 3 months

 

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