Fordmods Logo

Does the transmission cooler lines NEED to use the radiator? 

 

Page 1 of 1 [ 13 posts ] 

 
 Post subject: Does the transmission cooler lines NEED to use the radiator?
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:34 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 45

Posts: 3440

Joined: 23rd Dec 2007

Gallery: 32 images

Ride: BA XR6T (mix of BA, BF and FG)

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

Hi all,

I have a very tidy radiator that has been re-cored recently but that has one small problem. It appears that the transmission fluid cooler in the radiator has a tiny leak and as a result dumps water in the Transmission when under high pressure.

So I blocked it as in this photo by soldering the fittings shut.
Image

Then, I pulled a second factory transmission cooler from my spare EL and installed it in the wheelwell behind the spotlight mount. (EF falcon swagon)

Image

And I've plumbed it so that now the transmission fluid runs though the factory cooler in front of the radiator, and then though the one in the wheel well, before heading back to the tranny.

As you can see in this shot, it is right behind the headlight opening and should get great air flow..
Image


My question is this.. is this enough cooling for a car that does no towing or hard work?
It does solve my problem of not wasting a great radiator and not getting water in the tranny fluid. I'm just worried that it will get too hot..

Anyone know if this will provide sufficient cooling for the tranny? (2 factory coolers with good flow I mean)

ta

Frank
Perth WA
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Does the transmission cooler lines NEED to use the radiator?
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:42 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 1008

Joined: 21st Dec 2004

Ride: ED V8

Location: driving under the sun........now!
WA, Australia

I am pretty sure that having two dedicated coolers plumbed in and operating, when usually only the one in the radiator is sufficient, will be more than enough for a car which does no towing.

 

_________________

ED XR8 Spri-mitatio-nt

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Does the transmission cooler lines NEED to use the radiator?
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:43 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 54

Posts: 4102

Joined: 18th Nov 2004

Gallery: 10 images

Ride: PX2 Ranger 4x4 XLT Dual CAB

Location: Carrum Downs
VIC, Australia

My radiator cooler is also bypassed, I'm only using the factory BA cooler

 

_________________

Image
She's meanness put to music and the b**ch is born to run!
Like the sign says, "speed's just a question of money. How fast can you go?"

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Does the transmission cooler lines NEED to use the radiator?
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:50 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 45

Posts: 3440

Joined: 23rd Dec 2007

Gallery: 32 images

Ride: BA XR6T (mix of BA, BF and FG)

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

That's a bit of a relief I was concerned it would overheat and dump tranny fluid all over the exhaust or something.. this is the car my wife drives my kids around in.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Does the transmission cooler lines NEED to use the radiator?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:35 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 32

Posts: 5540

Joined: 31st Oct 2005

Gallery: 28 images

Ride: NC II Fairlane

Location: morayfield
QLD, Australia

when you think about it the radiator cooler is surrounded by very hot water on long drives so it wouldnt be doing much cooling. so an external unit is much better for cooling. using the factory hard line one isnt 100% needed as the finned unit would do the job good enough but the more the better (to an extent)

on my turbo fairlane i also bypassed the radiator as i see it as pointless if you have a good quality cooler on it

 

_________________

Member #7418
KB Laser White lightning Turbo - B6T
Turbo NC II Fairlane Ghia
http://www.fordmods.com/the-garage-f53/my-new-nc-ii-fairlane-dial-up-warning-t50380.html

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Does the transmission cooler lines NEED to use the radiator?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:50 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 25

Posts: 4599

Joined: 30th Aug 2010

Ride: BF XR6,

Location: NEWCASTLE
NSW, Australia

I like where youv put it down where the hole is in the bumper, should work well there

 

_________________

BF XR6
xr8 snorkel,typhoon lower snorkel,territory intake pipe,20% underdrive kit,pacemaker extractors,high flow cat,xforce exhaust,t56 conversion hd turbo clutch/ flywheel,m86 3.45 lsd,custom tune187.1rwkw as an auto

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Does the transmission cooler lines NEED to use the radiator?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:34 pm 
Smokin em up
Offline

Age: 28

Posts: 270

Joined: 13th Dec 2010

Ride: ba xr6t ute

Location: perth
WA, Australia

wowowowowowowow, ive seen those pics befor!
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Does the transmission cooler lines NEED to use the radiator?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:57 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 36

Posts: 9453

Joined: 9th Nov 2004

Gallery: 4 images

Ride: Fordrunner 5.0 Turbo

Location: Wollongong
NSW, Australia

In answer to the op's question.
Yes and no, depends on the situation. If the car is only driven for up to 20-30 kms at a time before being allowed to cool down, then most definitely use the in radiator cooler, either on its own or in tandem with a dedicated trans cooler. The idea being to bring the trans up to temp quicker and limit the ammount of wear and tear.
If you do a lot of driving and not really let the trans cool down, then by all means run a stand alone cooler because the cool running is more important than the warm up time in this case.

Edit. I meant 10-15 mins but at freeway speeds that can be up to 30kms.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Does the transmission cooler lines NEED to use the radiator?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:18 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 30

Posts: 1507

Joined: 14th Aug 2009

Gallery: 12 images

Ride: BA XT V8

Location: Gosnells, Perth
WA, Australia

its probly not a great idea to have 2 stand alone radiators on yor car if it isnt doin any towing.
the point of the fluid running thru the radiator is to bring it up to operating temp quikly so the least amount of "warm up damage" is done.
unless its a burnout car then you might need one also.

 

_________________

BA XT V8. Ice Mint. 18" Speedys. XR6T LSD. Full Pacemaker twin 2 1/2inch Stainless Steel system. Custom CAI. Black XR interior with white trimming. Powerbond underdrive kit 25%.
13.65@102mph. 2800 hi-Stall.
230RWKW@5250 rpm. 625NM.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Does the transmission cooler lines NEED to use the radiator?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:26 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 36

Posts: 9453

Joined: 9th Nov 2004

Gallery: 4 images

Ride: Fordrunner 5.0 Turbo

Location: Wollongong
NSW, Australia

2 stand alone coolers? Only if its used for towing, burnouts, drags, or other constant full throttle shennanigans. In the colder months a very lightly driven car running 2 taxi sized stand alone tranny coolers would most probably do more harm than good. Feel free to correct me if you feel that I'm wrong but that's my understanding of the situation.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Does the transmission cooler lines NEED to use the radiator?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:18 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 45

Posts: 3440

Joined: 23rd Dec 2007

Gallery: 32 images

Ride: BA XR6T (mix of BA, BF and FG)

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

Thanks for the tips..

I have a T5 that I'm putting in my car, so I'll swap radiators with my wifes car as my radiator doesn't introduce water to the system and I'll have a manual and not need it anymore.

Her radiator has a practically new core so it's a win for me too. :-)
Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Does the transmission cooler lines NEED to use the radiator?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:29 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 28

Posts: 3374

Joined: 11th Mar 2008

Ride: EA SVO, AU2 Forte

Location: Bendigo
VIC, Australia

why would the trans dump fluid on the exhaust if it got hot? :lol:

 

_________________

Daily driver: AU2. 5 speed. 19" FG luxos. Full exhaust. Lowered. AU3 XR leather interior, converted to full power windows. 3.45 LSD. IN THE FUTURE: Tickford 6
Weekend driver: EA SVO AU motor. Built BTR. TCE 2800 stall. T76 turbo. Locked diff. On E85. approx 320rwkw. 11.5 @121mph

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Does the transmission cooler lines NEED to use the radiator?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:41 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 45

Posts: 3440

Joined: 23rd Dec 2007

Gallery: 32 images

Ride: BA XR6T (mix of BA, BF and FG)

Location: Perth
WA, Australia

There was water in it initially from the radiator cooler having crack in it.. when driving hard, the water turned to steam and that blew fluid out the filler dipstick. (it's an EF)

Its all good now that I've flushed it, put new fluid in and the second cooler.
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 1 of 1  [ 13 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:35 am All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names