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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:33 pm 
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federal FD1 are utter crap, they wear very quickly ive found

Nexen & sumitomo are a good budget tyre

however, looking at the price of the Hankooks tickford6 mentioned, id be going for them !!!

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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:25 pm 
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KU36's are too soft for every day use, Better off with something like Falken FK452's or ZE912's.

They are? I'm dallying them, but then again, I'm not being a a*** with this car. Personal preference on tyres, but I would rather fork out $190 each tyre every year for my steer tyres. A good alignment will see the softest of tyres last. I did 15000k's on a set of Khumo V70A semi slicks from 50%.

 

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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:50 pm 
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dc_todd wrote:
KU36's are too soft for every day use, Better off with something like Falken FK452's or ZE912's.


I'm not too fussed about tyre wear. I don't drive much anymore, maybe twice a week when I need to buy stuff that won't fit on my bike, so if the tyre is decent enough for a cheap price, I am happy to grab them. Not going to be doing mountain runs or pushing the car through corners.

Thanks for all the help...will have to suss out more prices now and hope I don't get ripped off.

By the way 67RCE, I just got a quote for Khumo KU36 from Kmart Auto (...closest tyre dealer) and they charged $239 a tyre (includes fitting, balance, tyre disposal and some lifetime wheel balance crap). Not too bad, but pricier than the Dunlop SP3000As. Another private place sold them for $260 fitted/balanced :?

 

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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:02 pm 
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Phong, option1garage here in Brisbane do them for $177+ fitting ($15ea if wheels are on car).

 

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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:45 pm 
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Phong, option1garage here in Brisbane do them for $177+ fitting ($15ea if wheels are on car).


Gee that's pretty cheap...so far every store I've called had cost more than $200 for KU36s.

For anyone interested on tyre prices, I have called a few stores and got some quotes. These quotes include fitting and balance per tyre, no wheel alignment, I suspect $50-60 for wheel alignment.

Kmart Auto
Dunlop SP3000A - $229
Good Year Regatta (sp?) - $185
Khumo KU36 - $239

Westwood Tyre (Deer Park/Burnside)
Khumo KU36 - $260

Beaurepaire (Wheel alignment $55)
Duron - $110 (never heard of these...spelling might be wrong too)
Triangle - $160
Dunlop SP3000A - $225
Good Year F1 - $270 (old style - now obsolete so I was told)
Good Year F1 - $260 (new style taking over old)
Good Year Assurance - $225

Bridgestone
Bridgestone GR9 - $249
Firestone (unsure of model) - $179

Bob Jane
Xenon Z7 - $169 (really wanted me to get this one)
Zetum - $125 (never heard of these)
Falken ZE912 - $170 (less noise to SP3000A supposedly)
Falken FK452 - $190 (noisier than SP3000A supposedly)

Bob Jane didn't recommend Federals due to road noise...since I wanted road noise the dude at BJ said the best would have been FD2s, but even then, they were not as good as Falken or Xenon (Xenon = BJ tyre yeah?) according to BJ guy.

Anyways hope this might help others out there looking for tyres as well. Most places don't suggest Nexxen N6000. Might have to pop in and see how much Maxxis are, supposedly good tyres too...forgot to ask them about them.

Right now I feel like going with Falken ZE912, Federals FD2s (if they are well priced) or the Firestones from Bridgestone. If money falls on my lap, I'll probably get Khumos KU36s.

If anyone has anymore suggestions before Saturday, that would be great. Hoping to book it in and get it done on Saturday.

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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:25 am 
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Bob Jane didn't recommend Federals due to road noise...


Haha In think the BJ guy has sounds in his head. As i said earlier the Federals are quieter than the Dunlop Sp sports on the FG. At $400 fitted for 4 tyres its the cheapest ive found buy hey maybe not as good as the $300+ each tyres.

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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:59 am 
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Zetum are renamed Khumo's

 

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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:09 am 
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In the last few weeks I've had a set 912's fitted, they were $180 a corner + fitting. Good tyre, quiet, progressive grip as well, you can feel yourself pushing into understeer compared with something like the Goodyear F1 GSD3's that held, held, held then BANG welcome to understeer by the bucket load. Hindsight, I should have got the FK452's! My car is loud as it is, The 452's are a sportier tyre, by only a little bit, But my mate has the 452's fitted to his FG F6, and he experiences zero tyre noise. Your gonna get what you pay for, I went 235/40/18's Previously had 245's the carcass on the Goodyears was too large, took the grease nipples out, banged guards and so on. the falken 235 presents narrower by a significant margin. The F1's had larger shoulders that pumped up the appearance of them.

I find yokohamas too soft for road use, you will find the KU36's too soft as well for road use, I think the tread wear is somewhere round 180, I know they are a silica tyre, but thats still soft. I'd expect 45000 out of them.

 

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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:55 pm 
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What's the actuall real world kms u all getting out of the tyres u are recommending???

Im using Kuhmo KU31's and last time i checked i done 25,000kms and still had a couple mm on the indicators left..........

 

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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:01 pm 
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My 36's are 3 years old, have done numerous skidpan days, 2x Powercruise, multiple drift sessions, been on 3 cars and I myself have done 7000k's on them and have about 0.5mm to the Tread wear indicator.

 

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I ended up going with the Falken ZE912s. I have done only 50km on them so far. From what I have found so far, they are a bit quieter than the SP3000A. Comparing new to new, sorry I can't say, since it's been 2 or 3 years since I bought the SPs new so my memories have faded, however when I drove home from the freeway, they seemed smooth and quiet. Not much tram lining on grooves as the SPs that's for sure and it has plenty of grip in the dry, tried hard braking and slightly over excited cornering and it held pretty well, probably better than SPs. Definitely plenty of grip for every day driving. Tyres were tested in familiar roads, so comparing them made it much easier. Also found that the steering was much lighter during parking/slow corners, which I found odd considering tyre pressure is the same as the SPs before. At first I thought it was the release agent still on the new tyres, but even after a 50km drive, steering was still easy.

Overall, I give these tyres to be quiet good. Bang for buck in comparison to the Dunlop SP3000A. I paid $170 per tyre to be fitted/balanced, which isn't too bad considering the last time I bought Dunlop SP3000A, it cost me $1100 for a set.

I will update this once I have done a full tank of fuel (~500km).

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What's the actuall real world kms u all getting out of the tyres u are recommending???

Im using Kuhmo KU31's and last time i checked i done 25,000kms and still had a couple mm on the indicators left..........


I would say I got about 25000km out of my front tyres (got lazy and didn't rotate). The rears still have 60% tread or so. I would imagine I'd get another 30000km out of the rears quiet easily if not rotated, this is for Dunlop SP3000A, with 36psi. With new fronts, I am hoping to get brand new tyres all round after 30000km to even it out.

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:47 pm 
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dc_todd wrote:
In the last few weeks I've had a set 912's fitted, they were $180 a corner + fitting. Good tyre, quiet, progressive grip as well, you can feel yourself pushing into understeer compared with something like the Goodyear F1 GSD3's that held, held, held then BANG welcome to understeer by the bucket load. Hindsight, I should have got the FK452's! My car is loud as it is, The 452's are a sportier tyre, by only a little bit, But my mate has the 452's fitted to his FG F6, and he experiences zero tyre noise. Your gonna get what you pay for, I went 235/40/18's Previously had 245's the carcass on the Goodyears was too large, took the grease nipples out, banged guards and so on. the falken 235 presents narrower by a significant margin. The F1's had larger shoulders that pumped up the appearance of them.

I find yokohamas too soft for road use, you will find the KU36's too soft as well for road use, I think the tread wear is somewhere round 180, I know they are a silica tyre, but thats still soft. I'd expect 45000 out of them.


I was told KU36 were 400 and KU31 were 320...

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:14 pm 
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KU36 Treadwear rating is 180.

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:48 pm 
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I've had problems with Michelins making the car feel like the alignment was out - after much tailchasing and $$ spent on alignment and suspension parts, replaced the healthy "looking" michelins and problem went away...

Pirelli 5000 and 6000 - the 5000's were better than the 6000's but both were noisy. Have also since realised there are better tyres than either out there for less cost...

I stuck with kumho for many years but put GT Radials on my EF a bit over a year ago and have been really pleased with them - no nasty vices, quiet on the road, feel and handle good - and most remarkably they're wearing amazingly well...


Which GT radials did you get???

I got my KU31's for $512.00 fitted 225/50/16 and have done 32,691kms so far but need camber kit for front as its uneven wear. If i can get 35,000kms i would be happy

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:30 pm 
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67RCE wrote:
KU36 Treadwear rating is 180.


I just checked my KU31's and there treadwear is 340, a member from another forum changed from KU36 to KU31 and found them to grip the same but wear better on KU31............

 

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