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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:54 pm 
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Sick of your 5 speed gearbox having the uber-s**t gearshift feel?

I can't help the crap feel of the cable clutch at this stage but I ripped out the rubber insulator between the gear lever and the shift mechanism in the gearbox and it has made a WORLD of difference, it's simply amazing. The gearshift is now almost as good as most japanese gearboxes, it makes the car feel quite nice to drive!

I initially thought it was just my box so I rung a mate and got him to do it on his EL and he rings me back 2 hours later saying what a fantastic change it made!

You have to add a few washers to each 10mm bolt to space it out due to removing the insulator but thats about it! 15 mins of work and the car feels almost as good as japanese gearboxes.... I actually enjoyed driving it this arvo!

In short: Do it!

The negatives - the NVH from the engine is transmitted more to your hand, if you rest your hand on the shift lever, it may get a bit sore after 30 mins of driving....
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:30 pm 
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Hmmmm I would like to try out someone elses car before I do that to mine.

 

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:35 pm 
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Hmmmm I would like to try out someone elses car before I do that to mine.


not being familiar with the manual box which is why i ask this question, is there any reason you cannot put it back in if you don't like it?

 

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:52 pm 
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you could probably get the rubber insulator copied onto nylon of the same thickness, should increase shift feel,and still have some vibration absorbtion qualities

 

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:01 pm 
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whats wrong with the feel of the shift in the first place?

and dont say uber s**t.


and with your clutch cable worries you could always go hydrolic

 

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:05 pm 
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timmeh, yeah you can just put the rubber insulator back in if you choose to want the rubbery sloppy poor feel again.

dvyvan, the T5 shift is uber s**t. Actually, its worse. Please tell me a RWD 5 speed gearbox made in the last 15 years with a worse shift than the borg warner T5.

Over the past 25 years the only worse gearbox I can think of is the aussie 4 speed.

With the clutch cable issues, I said I dont have a solution yet. I'm working on it.
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:08 pm 
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you could probably get the rubber insulator copied onto nylon of the same thickness, should increase shift feel,and still have some vibration absorbtion qualities


I'm quite thinking of doing this, for the moment i'm quite enjoying a very solid and firm shift rather than sloppy seconds.
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:10 pm 
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I actually dont have any worries with my t5 after i got the shifer pivot replaced. Used to be sloppy now its like a virgin again.

 

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:11 pm 
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i put the rubber back on on mine it sounds real noisy and feels notchy without it i personally didnt like it

i was hoping this thread had good news about making the box stronger or there was a cheap short throw shifter around i go really excited :(

 

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:27 pm 
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dvyvan wrote:
I actually dont have any worries with my t5 after i got the shifer pivot replaced. Used to be sloppy now its like a virgin again.


The operation is reversible if you dont like it. Personally I love it, coming from owning manual japanese cars for almost 10 years, it's bringing back memories of enjoyable driving!

Its not a worn shift pivot symptom. That is sloppiness without tension, the rubber insulator is sloppiness with a little tension, competely different feeling.
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:29 pm 
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sickd wrote:
feels notchy without it


which is exactly why I like it.

My GF who is learning manual now also thinks its much much nicer.... Then again each to their own, surely many may not like it, I just dont know why...
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:52 pm 
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Bozz wrote:
JOSE wrote:
you could probably get the rubber insulator copied onto nylon of the same thickness, should increase shift feel,and still have some vibration absorbtion qualities


I'm quite thinking of doing this, for the moment i'm quite enjoying a very solid and firm shift rather than sloppy seconds.


Nylong might still be a bit stiff, anyone know if nolothane is available in sheet form that would probably be perfect

 

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:46 pm 
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JOSE wrote:
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JOSE wrote:
you could probably get the rubber insulator copied onto nylon of the same thickness, should increase shift feel,and still have some vibration absorbtion qualities


I'm quite thinking of doing this, for the moment i'm quite enjoying a very solid and firm shift rather than sloppy seconds.


Nylong might still be a bit stiff, anyone know if nolothane is available in sheet form that would probably be perfect


nolathane is just a brand name
your looking for sheets of polyurethane. and i'm sure if you try one of the rubber shops around you'll find some thing that is very close to what you want

 

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:49 pm 
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I've got a Tremec T5 sitting at home (out of an XR6T) and long and behold - shift insulator is a hard plastic material, not rubber.

 

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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:37 pm 
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mspw wrote:
I've got a Tremec T5 sitting at home (out of an XR6T) and long and behold - shift insulator is a hard plastic material, not rubber.


can a tremec 5 speed be bolted to a ef i6 with different bel housing

 

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