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 Post subject: Front Tyres are wearing bald on the outside...
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:12 pm 
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I have had a wheel alignment done all around on EF Station Wagon variety. The front tyres are wearing remarkably quickly on the outside of the wheel.

I do carry large loads, being a builder with all the tools in the car... Could over inflation of the front wheels cause this, or are my shocks totally phucked?!!

I wouldn't normally care that much as have been putting cheap rubber on ($130 a tyre) but am looking at getting fatter tread and would hate for the whole thing to go pear shaped.

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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:59 pm 
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It's not from being over loaded or over inflated.
The Tow is set wrong. Dodgy alignment.
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:54 pm 
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The wheel bearings are going by the sounds of things.
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:12 pm 
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$130 a tyre on 15"s?? is not cheap....

over inflation will cause the centre to wear.

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:46 am 
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check to see if the inside is wearing at the same rate as the outside? if so could be under inflated tyres...

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:51 am 
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well when my power steering rack s**t itself my tyres wore uneavenly infact i chewed 500 dollars worth of khumos in 6months :( but i would defiatly be getting them to check they did the alignment properly
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:55 am 
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I would, once again, like to thanks everyone at FORDMODS for helping out the mechanically unsuitable with yet another request that would drive most to the drink.

So, general consensus is DODGY WHEEL ALIGNMENT, which is what I was suspecting myself (and was hoping for!)... The wheel bearings are fine (although could put new left on shortly.......)

Ho hum. :?

I did ride motorbikes a lot (fast) and thus tend to push the car around a little... If the alignment is at factory setting and the tyres are being worn on outside then surely a bit more tow would be okay anyway?

:idea: Hey - Is TOW IN when the top of the wheel is in further than the bottom, or is that TOW OUT?!
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I would, once again, like to thanks everyone at FORDMODS for helping out the mechanically unsuitable with yet another request that would drive most to the drink.

So, general consensus is DODGY WHEEL ALIGNMENT, which is what I was suspecting myself (and was hoping for!)... The wheel bearings are fine (although could put new left on shortly.......)

Ho hum. :?

I did ride motorbikes a lot (fast) and thus tend to push the car around a little... If the alignment is at factory setting and the tyres are being worn on outside then surely a bit more tow would be okay anyway?

:idea: Hey - Is TOW IN when the top of the wheel is in further than the bottom, or is that TOW OUT?!

You are thinking camber.
Camber is the angle of the tyres when looking from the front of the car.
Negative camber is the tops angling in, positive camber is the opposite.

Toe is the angle of the tyres if you are looking from ABOVE the car.
Toe in is the front of the tyre angled in, toe out the opposite.

A bit more negative camber if you drive hard can help prevent outer edge wear.
But you have to drive pretty hard to f**k an outer edge when the rest of the tyre is still fine.
Front wheel alignments are generally under $50 anyway, good piece of mind.

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:36 am 
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May be worth getting an adjustable camber kit fitted also.

 

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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:24 am 
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One of the biggest problem i had with my previous EL. the outer edge gets bald just before the middle part reaches 50% wear. I went to Fury Ford and they fixed it by adding shims into the camber. After that the front wheel looks far better than the factory spec camber angle.

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:48 am 
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Thanks, once again!

I guess either
-- the factory spec (for whatever reason) isn't working with the rim / tyre / suspension / load of the specific car
-- the d***head at Firestone who use rattle guns to put wheels on stuffed up the alignment.

I seem to remember the alignment wasn't far out and only needed a slight adjustment. I think I am going to have to find a new tyre crew as this is very dissapointing.

Thanks to FordMods I now know that wheel nuts have a torque rating (and therefore doing them up with a rattle gun can cause excessive brake disk wear).

Hmmmppph!


Got some newer mag wheels turning up sometime shortly. The are still 15" so may put the 215, 60, r15 tyres from my Fairmont and Subaru onto them and start from scratch.

Am taking the disks off the Fairmont, getting them machined and put onto the Futura, so may as well start at wheel bearings and work the whole way through to tyres...

And, hopefully, a different tyre outfit will listen to my problem with the old ones and put some extra camber on for me.....


Although, this whole plan may come unstuck by the simple fact I havn't seen the mag wheels I bought from TRADEME and they may not be 6.5" or 7" wide to take the 215's. Silly me, forgot to even check before bidding. Dumb a***!
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:51 am 
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Nicko wrote:
May be worth getting an adjustable camber kit fitted also.


And just how does an adjustable camber kit differ from what's under the car standard? Isn't there an adjustment bit there already, or do you have to add / subtract shims or washers etc?
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:30 am 
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Nicko wrote:
May be worth getting an adjustable camber kit fitted also.


And just how does an adjustable camber kit differ from what's under the car standard? Isn't there an adjustment bit there already, or do you have to add / subtract shims or washers etc?
the stock ones give you a little bit of adjustment-a few shims,the kits give you up to 22mm each side.my xr8 has 20 mm each side and ran out of thread to put more shims in----but at -.5 a deg on both sides the tyres wear even---17 x 8 so im suprised at your set up,get a suspension place to check yours for wear,then the wheel alignment.can you post up the sheet with the figures.i keep mine as reference.i just recently changed my axles to el gt--to fit twin piston brakes,had the wheels checked-----and they improved the set up.i had -1 deg with the ef and now have -.5 deg,before i started i had -3.5 deg both sides v8 super car set up for the track,and chewing tryes out. have you thought a bout a trailer for your tools-balance your load----may be better economy?

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:08 pm 
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hooking it into corners will wear outsides first.
If you drive sensibly though, get alignment checked out before anything else.

 

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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:23 am 
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I previously posted here but maybe the server change nuked it.

I once loaded up my XG in a way that raised the front. I found that doing so increased the toe-in, which scrubbed the outside of the tyres. EF's have different front end geometry though.

 

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