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 Post subject: heavy duty clutch
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:46 pm 
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hi all, just wanted to ask people about the heavy duty clutches they have in there falcons. ive got an el falcon 6 banger and ive just carried out the manual conversion, ive fitted a heavy duty valeo clutch in it with a machined flywheel,re-enforced pedal box with new bushes,new clutch cable,pedal,throwout bearing etc etc,ive adjusted the clutch cable to the factory pedal height, the clutch is quite heavy which i expect but a soon as i got to take off the clutch clamps pretty much about an inch off the floor and takes off like a scalded cat, is this normally for these type of clutches? ive never had a h/d clutch in any of my other cars and i thought maybe the pedal would come out further before it takes off.its not so much a problem its just taking a little bit to get used to. any feedback would be great. thanks
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 Post subject: Re: heavy duty clutch
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:15 pm 
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Thats how mine was with a HD unit, with a 5 puck button clutch now its pretty much the same. Its pretty easy to drive though, just feed more throttle into it once it bites rather than rev it up and slip the clutch.

 

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 Post subject: Re: heavy duty clutch
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:41 am 
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My clutch industries RPM kit with is i guess what you call stage 1 heavy duty, feels a bit heavier (but not all that much) than stock, and if you don't rev the car up a bit more on take off you can stall it, due to how well it grabs.

With a stock clutch i could slip it out slowly at about 800 to 900rpm & take off easy. New clutch needs about 1200 or it will stall. Great to tow with too.

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 Post subject: Re: heavy duty clutch
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:50 am 
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What is the part no for the valeo clutch ?? - some are good (the 6 bolt setups), some way too hard (3 bolt setup). If it's too hard, you'll put stress on the throwout fork, pedalbox, and most, the cable, and something will give over time.
Got it from Sunbury Brakes did you ??

 

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 Post subject: Re: heavy duty clutch
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:15 pm 
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snap0964 wrote:
What is the part no for the valeo clutch ?? - some are good (the 6 bolt setups), some way too hard (3 bolt setup). If it's too hard, you'll put stress on the throwout fork, pedalbox, and most, the cable, and something will give over time.
Got it from Sunbury Brakes did you ??


hi, yes i got from sunbury brakes.it is the 6 bolt setup. part number is h1220n.cost $245 which i thought wasnt to bad.
ive fitted new clutch pedal,cable,bushes,return spring,reinforced pedal box etc to give it the best chance i can.
im going to sell it soon as i only get to drive it around 50km a month so hopefully itl last a while with a new owner
thanks for the respnses.cheers
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 Post subject: Re: heavy duty clutch
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:02 pm 
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You'll find the part no you quoted to be pretty good - not much harder feel than std.

 

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 Post subject: Re: heavy duty clutch
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:14 pm 
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snap0964 wrote:
You'll find the part no you quoted to be pretty good - not much harder feel than std.


+1.

I have that clutch in my ute, and I have no problems with it in traffic every day. Only a little heavier than a standard clutch, and very easy to use. I have my clutch pedal a little higher than the brake pedal, but I am comfortable with it. I have probably 3" of travel from the floor before it starts to engage, as well as about 2" of freeplay at the top of the pedal, before any pressure on the clutch.
Maybe you need to adjust your pedal for a bit more travel before it "bights"?

 

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 Post subject: Re: heavy duty clutch
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:20 pm 
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im using a exedy hd clutch, still light on the pedal and very grippy..
holding up good with over 200rwkw.. :)
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:28 pm 
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If you give your car a belting/skid it then a hd clutch wont hold up for long, Ive done 2 in my car and its <200rwkw.

 

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 Post subject: Re: heavy duty clutch
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:06 pm 
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admitantly the exedy hd in the 3 bolt clutch started to slip after 4 burnouts and 4 1/4 mile runs at the track..
but the 6 bolt version is holding up excellant.. the problem now lies in the gearbox, it cannot handle the harsh load and torque.. :roll:
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 Post subject: Re: heavy duty clutch
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:08 am 
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i had heavy duty clutch biggest mistake of my life, in the past year broke 4 cables 1 of them was a custom 1100 foot pound cable used for elevators 2 clutch bushes and 1 fork omg never again, getting custom pressure plate made up now as puting turbo
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 Post subject: Re: heavy duty clutch
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:13 am 
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Glowing EF wrote:
i had heavy duty clutch biggest mistake of my life, in the past year broke 4 cables 1 of them was a custom 1100 foot pound cable used for elevators 2 clutch bushes and 1 fork omg never again, getting custom pressure plate made up now as puting turbo



going turbo is going to kill the t5 and the clutch...

since ive upgraded to the exed hd 6 bolt clutch, ive also gone turbo and the new clutch is having trouble holding on.... and after about 500km of turbo the relativly new reco t5 is now whining like a b**ch.... :roll:
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 Post subject: Re: heavy duty clutch
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:58 pm 
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im not using standard of heavy duty, im getting some sort of other clutch that im not going to have any problems with and they making custom pressure plate for it costing me $550 but i dont know what im doing with the t5
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 Post subject: Re: heavy duty clutch
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:33 pm 
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?? some sort of other clutch??? :? more info would be nice.. :)

i think the only options for a manual gearbox would be tremic or t56..

otherwise auto might be better..
im even considering th400 or powerglide..?
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 Post subject: Re: heavy duty clutch
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:05 pm 
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I have a pbr rpm clutch ready to go in. Hopefully it won't snap cables tho.
A heavier clutch will take up quicker.
Very little riding. More of a on gas off clutch more gas.
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