Fordmods Logo

Koni Shocks??? 

 

Page 1 of 2 [ 26 posts ] Go to page 1, 2  Next

 
 Post subject: Koni Shocks???
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:11 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 34

Posts: 2351

Joined: 11th Nov 2004

Gallery: 30 images

Ride: Blown XR8

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

I was wondering, whether to get Koni Adjustables in the Rear of my car.
I have got Super Super Low springs and had Pedders COmfort Shocks fitted in the rear already, but its a pretty bumpy ride with anyone in the back. The guys where i got it all done, said they will replace the Pedders with Koni's for $400 (Rear only), i've already bought the Pedders installed for $140.
So question 1: Are Koni's good and do they still have the reputation of being extremely good as they did years ago, or has their quality dropped off at all?
Question 2: After i have already paid $140 to get Pedders installed, would another $400 on top be about the right price for these Shocks.
THe Koni's are the externally adjustable's (if that helps)

Thanks Dave
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:22 pm 
Site Admin
Offline
User avatar

Age: 34

Posts: 8831

Joined: 18th Dec 2002

Gallery: 6 images

Ride: AUII V8 LTD

Power: 270 rwkw

Location: Sydney
NSW, Australia

Hey Mate,

Pricing on the Koni's sounds about right. I can get the koni sports for $460 Front, $380 rear.

I recently picked up a pair of Koni Rear adjustables from the wreckers for $25 - BARGAIN! :) They'll be going in to replace the very disappointing KYB's. They're soft and they rattle - only 6 months old!

I'm planning to put koni's in the front of that car also, and a full set in the wagon. The reputation is still strong, the quality is great and the ride is unbeleivable!

 

_________________

WAG363: AUII LTD Supercharged 363 Dart Stroker [Supercharged 363 LTD Build]
WAGGIN: 2012 Volkswagen Passat Wagon - V6 4Motion.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:41 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 35

Posts: 850

Joined: 10th Nov 2004

Gallery: 20 images

Ride: 03 BA Fairmont

Location: Forest Lake
QLD, Australia

when you say adjustable, is this ride height or stiffness of the dampening?

 

_________________

Regards,
Punnisher_42
_____________
2003 BA Fairmont - Stock standard
1994 U13 cough Nissan Cough Bluebird

Favorite Quotes:
"Sportwagon = homo-erotic wank-fest." - downingj

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:53 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 34

Posts: 780

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Ride: EF XR6

Location: Adelaide
SA, Australia

Punnisher_42 - stiffness of dampening.

Koni are very good shocks, I got a set of red (special) ones for the rear and they handle like a dream.

 

_________________

Not lost any demerit points

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:26 pm 
Tyre Shredder
Offline
User avatar

Age: 33

Posts: 332

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

I just got a set of the yellow Konis for the front of my ED. Still yet to put them in. Will my ride be smoother AND will the car handle better than my current stock shocks :oops: that have had to cope with superlows?

Does anyone know the approximate price for rebuilding Konis?

Waggin, the Koni "Sports" - are you referring to the reds or yellows? Coz that's a bloody good price for the yellows!
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:28 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 33

Posts: 11791

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Gallery: 13 images

Ride: Holden VF Calais / NL FBT

Location: SE Melb
VIC, Australia

the boss uses Koni's in his race car
swears by them

 

_________________

Nicko

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:31 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 45

Posts: 830

Joined: 7th Nov 2004

Gallery: 12 images

Ride: au xr8 & 5.0 eb

Location: yarrawonga
VIC, Australia

XRated wrote:
I just got a set of the yellow Konis for the front of my ED. Still yet to put them in. Will my ride be smoother AND will the car handle better than my current stock shocks :oops: that have had to cope with superlows?

Does anyone know the approximate price for rebuilding Konis?

Waggin, the Koni "Sports" - are you referring to the reds or yellows? Coz that's a bloody good price for the yellows!
your car will handle better for sure but if you have old tired stock shocks now its going to be alot firmer ride
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:11 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 35

Posts: 516

Joined: 20th Dec 2004

Gallery: 4 images

Ride: EL Manual

Location: S.E. Melbourne
VIC, Australia

Koni's have a lifetime (of the car) warranty.

I have 4 koni reds in my car. Just magic! Getting them set up properly is the key. I am running all mine at +25% with the whiteline springs. You will probabily need more damping with lower (and therfore stiffer) springs to control the stronger spring.

If you want softness dont go "Super super low"! :D

 

_________________

Manual EL Gli.
Mods: Crow Stg3, Chiptorque Dynotune. Lukey Exhaust. DBA slotted rotors, EBC Pads. Whiteline Low Susp. EL GT Swaybars, ROH Envy 17 x235 wheels. Vehicle Datalogger Display V2.0,

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:23 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 34

Posts: 2351

Joined: 11th Nov 2004

Gallery: 30 images

Ride: Blown XR8

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

Cheers guys, I'm not expecting to have a smooth ride, just a fair bit better than i do at the moment, cause it's annoying if you're in the back of the car.

Thanks again.

Dave
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:44 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 35

Posts: 533

Joined: 12th Jan 2005

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

Any adjustable shock, short of going a full blown racing shock @ up to $5000 per CORNER, only have adjustable rebound, not bump. Rebound is also sometimes called reset. A soft rebound will allow the suspension to 'wallow' or float on the road. Too hard a rebound will pull or keep tyres off the road, decrease handling and drastically increase braking distances

Also, someone mentioned here ride hight. Springs set the height. Shocks have nothing what-so-ever to do with ride height. If they did, people wouldn't put short springs in their cars to lower their ride, they'd put short shocks in their car.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:04 pm 
Site Admin
Offline
User avatar

Age: 34

Posts: 8831

Joined: 18th Dec 2002

Gallery: 6 images

Ride: AUII V8 LTD

Power: 270 rwkw

Location: Sydney
NSW, Australia

unclewoja wrote:
Any adjustable shock, short of going a full blown racing shock @ up to $5000 per CORNER, only have adjustable rebound, not bump. Rebound is also sometimes called reset. A soft rebound will allow the suspension to 'wallow' or float on the road. Too hard a rebound will pull or keep tyres off the road, decrease handling and drastically increase braking distances

Also, someone mentioned here ride hight. Springs set the height. Shocks have nothing what-so-ever to do with ride height. If they did, people wouldn't put short springs in their cars to lower their ride, they'd put short shocks in their car.


That explains why when I adjust my rear's as hard as they go, its almost impossible to pull the piston back out :D

So what are the key points to consider when setting up an adjustable rebound shock?

 

_________________

WAG363: AUII LTD Supercharged 363 Dart Stroker [Supercharged 363 LTD Build]
WAGGIN: 2012 Volkswagen Passat Wagon - V6 4Motion.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:44 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 35

Posts: 533

Joined: 12th Jan 2005

Location: Melbourne
VIC, Australia

Well, basically for a road car you can do a simple test.

You push down on the bonnet, or boot, a few times.... like a tramopoline(damn I watch too much simpsons). The suspension should go right back to ride height. If it extends further than ride height and then settles down, you need more rebound (stiffer shock)

I'm not sure how to test if it's too hard. It's easier just to adjust it too soft on purpose, then stiffen it up. If course, if it's a red koni, it means pulling it off for every adjustment. VERY annoying, although no as annoying on the back as the front.

Also, when I saw Top Perofrmance with my koni reds, they told me that something like 50% of the adjustment is in the last 1/2 turn. So if you've got it on full soft and give it 1/2 a turn, it only stiffens by a fraction of the amount of if you've got in 3/4" turn from the bottom and give it 1/2 a turn. Fine tuning of Konis can often be as little as 1/8" of a turn if their right near the hardest adjustment.
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:13 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 50

Posts: 912

Joined: 22nd Mar 2005

Gallery: 1 images

Location: FNQ
QLD, Australia

Don't fit the Konis yourself - because when they f**k out the dealers won't want to know you:

"You must have used them incorrectly" - yeah, like I fitted them to a car (they DO work quite well as door stops I have to admit...)

Just my experience.

 

_________________

96 EF Auto GLi - Bilstein Shocks - Adjustable Front sway bar - JMM Cam - TI Perf J3 - TCI 2500/3000 stall converter. 2015 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk.

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:26 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 34

Posts: 780

Joined: 5th Nov 2004

Ride: EF XR6

Location: Adelaide
SA, Australia

Just get a mech to install them then.

 

_________________

Not lost any demerit points

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:16 pm 
Site Admin
Offline
User avatar

Age: 34

Posts: 8831

Joined: 18th Dec 2002

Gallery: 6 images

Ride: AUII V8 LTD

Power: 270 rwkw

Location: Sydney
NSW, Australia

I dont care much for warranty. I purchased them for $25/pair. If they die, i'll just get them rebuilt.

Cheepa Cheepa :D

 

_________________

WAG363: AUII LTD Supercharged 363 Dart Stroker [Supercharged 363 LTD Build]
WAGGIN: 2012 Volkswagen Passat Wagon - V6 4Motion.

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 1 of 2  [ 26 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 16 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:04 pm All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names