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 Post subject: Re: manual conversion
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:18 pm 
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engine performance wise it dont make any difference..
but in ea to ed you need to fit a resistor on the gear position curcuit to trick the ecu to thinking its in neutral, otherwise the ecu will think its in drive and bump the idle up and cause rev hang..

in ef/el you need to fit a resistor on the gear position curcuit as above.
and also need to add another resistor to the trans temp curcuit, otherwise the ecu will think the auto is overheating and the thermo fans will run full speed constantly...

or the other method id getting a manual tune on a j3 chip to achieve the same results

cheers troyman very informative that.

 

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 Post subject: Re: manual conversion
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:47 pm 
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the best thing to do is to just go get an old ea manual and strip it for the manual gear, all except the comuted cause of the efi, ea are carby. that way you have everything you need, clutch pedal box break pedal, gear box, clutch cable (may need a new one along with a new clutch and pressure plate) and your tail shaft. all the goodies you will need to make one hell of a mess


EA'S are NOT carbied, they ran the crappy CPI (center point injection). if your doing the manual conversion in an EB series 2 or ED falcon, get the computer from an XG ute/panel van. they where popular with the 5speed manual, with the EF-EL range get it from an XH. are the tailshaft lengths different with the E series range between auto and manual? i know with the XD-XF series you dont need to.

 

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 Post subject: Re: manual conversion
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:04 pm 
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I have send the OP a PM letting him know I have a 1DAD EB ED manual ECU available.

 

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 Post subject: Re: manual conversion
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:07 pm 
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auto and manual tail shafts are different in length.

 

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 Post subject: Re: manual conversion
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:15 pm 
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greenie3d wrote:
auto and manual tail shafts are different in length.


No they aint.

 

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 Post subject: Re: manual conversion
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:25 pm 
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Why do people change them in the conversion

 

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 Post subject: Re: manual conversion
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:55 pm 
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because it's a common misconception, as a lot of cars do require tail shaft changes, most commowhores etc. either for length, and yoke can be different

fun fact a mate used a yoke out of a ba, for the 55customline gearbox he put in his tank fairlane.
55-07 or so probably longer, the good old 28 spline yokes use for.
xy gt tailshaft = EA tailshaft.

yes the is combinations that are differnt but still.

oh and the yoke for my tank fairlane 9" is suited to an au. :lol:

au on tailshaft lengths became an issue again. manual to auto, but ea- el the same.

v8 I don't have much knowledge on.

 

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 Post subject: Re: manual conversion
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:28 am 
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I've done the conversion in a 6cyl EB Ghia, and the tailshaft's are the same. Dunno about v8 car's, both my V8 e series are manuals from the factory. :D

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 Post subject: Re: manual conversion
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:09 am 
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greenie3d: s**t the hell up. everything you have said is wrong
tail shafts same
EA's aren't carby

troyman. whats this resistor thing i need to do? i'm getting rev hang now the EB is manual

 

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 Post subject: Re: manual conversion
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:25 am 
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troyman. whats this resistor thing i need to do? i'm getting rev hang now the EB is manual


To trick the ecu into thinking it is it neutral you will have to add a 7k 1% rated resistor, or a 6.8k-ohm resistor between pin 30 and pin 46(signal ground)..
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:24 am 
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TROYMAN wrote:
WILDEB wrote:

troyman. whats this resistor thing i need to do? i'm getting rev hang now the EB is manual


To trick the ecu into thinking it is it neutral you will have to add a 7k 1% rated resistor, or a 6.8k-ohm resistor between pin 30 and pin 46(signal ground)..


same on EB1?

 

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 Post subject: Re: manual conversion
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:38 am 
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WILDEB wrote:
TROYMAN wrote:
WILDEB wrote:

troyman. whats this resistor thing i need to do? i'm getting rev hang now the EB is manual


To trick the ecu into thinking it is it neutral you will have to add a 7k 1% rated resistor, or a 6.8k-ohm resistor between pin 30 and pin 46(signal ground)..


same on EB1?


ahhh.. its a little different on eb1.. did you remove the auto tcm??
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:05 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
WILDEB wrote:

troyman. whats this resistor thing i need to do? i'm getting rev hang now the EB is manual


To trick the ecu into thinking it is it neutral you will have to add a 7k 1% rated resistor, or a 6.8k-ohm resistor between pin 30 and pin 46(signal ground)..


same on EB1?


ahhh.. its a little different on eb1.. did you remove the auto tcm??


sure did. it bolted to the auto pedal box. no place for it to go now

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:27 pm 
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unplug the ICS
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 Post subject: Re: manual conversion
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:44 pm 
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Troy wrote:
unplug the ICS


and just set the idle manually with the screw?

 

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