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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:39 pm 
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hey all,

just the other day this problem started.

when im driving down the freeway at 100 in 3rd,4th or 5th if i plant my foot the revs just free rev and i go no where.

and then i can smeel burning clutch.

the only gears that engage durring flat foor accel r 1st and sec.

has my clutch finnally shat itself?
another side not is that my clutch cable is wound as tight as it can go.

can any one advise?

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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:44 pm 
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kizzer wrote:
has my clutch finnally shat itself?
another side not is that my clutch cable is wound as tight as it can go.
Check your clutch pedal is 140 +- 3 mm from the floor carpet. Adjust it if needed.
You don't want to overtravel the pressure plate, as it will damage it. Longterm incorrect adjustment will help to damage the system.

Other thing is the throwout bearing should be lightly touching the pressure plate with the above specs. If it's sitting against the pressure plate with a fair amount of tension, it can also cause the bearing to overheat and seize eventually.

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:59 pm 
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where is that mesurement taken from??

from the bottem of the pedel straight back to the floor?

cause if it is mine is 160?!?!

how do i fix that?
and could that be causing my probs?

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:13 pm 
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kizzer wrote:
where is that mesurement taken from??
from the bottem of the pedel straight back to the floor?
From the front face of the pedal pad to the floor.

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cause if it is mine is 160?!?
Well your's will then be around the 170-175mm mark. Since you've said it's done up tight, this will be why.

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how do i fix that?
and could that be causing my probs?
Adjust the nut on the outer cable in the engine bay near the firewall. Well your friction point would be pretty far up, maybe close to the full pedal up position. Your problem will be caused by this - whether or not it has already damaged anything is anyone's guess.
First thing's first, get the adjustment corrected.

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:31 pm 
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ok i just adjusted the cable so the pedal sits
at about 140.

the cutch feels hell weird and there is play at the top of the pedal.

and the car is if not worse then before?

 

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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:30 pm 
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I reckon clutch is rooted mate. :( wack a heavy duty in it. :shock: All good then. :D

 

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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:31 pm 
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I reckon clutch is rooted mate. :( wack a heavy duty in it. :shock: All good then. :D

 

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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:35 pm 
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yea sounds like ugot a fried clutch there

 

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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:13 pm 
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yeh that looks like the plan now ey.

i made another thread asking about what people rek r the best and it looks like a Xtreme HD organic is the way to go.

 

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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:43 pm 
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well my cars booked in for monday to get the clutch replaced.

but yesterday i thin k the clutch finnally died.

when i push the clutch pedal there is a hi pitch squeal and if i leave my foot on the clutch it starts smoking?!?!

is this just the clutch finally f**k or do this sound like something more serious?

 

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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:58 pm 
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its cooking your 'collapsed' throwout bearing.

you should get one with the clutch kit, PBR XR replacements are around $250

while your at it, make sure they replace the spigot bearing with a genuine one. ($25ish)

 

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kizzer wrote:
when i push the clutch pedal there is a hi pitch squeal and if i leave my foot on the clutch it starts smoking?!?!is this just the clutch finally f**k or do this sound like something more serious?
Another vote for the throwout bearing.
Wicksy did post some pictures a while ago of what I believe was damage done by a seized throwout bearing (didn't look pretty), Voxace did also post a pic a while ago too. Since the work was done by the same operation that isn't part of this forum anymore, I suspect the clutch pedal adjustment was done up too tight.
So do make sure the adjustment is correct.

 

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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:25 pm 
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what damage can it cause?

can it damage any other parts of the gear box that rnt goign to be replaced by bits in the clutch kit?

 

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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:11 pm 
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nup just clutch damage, unless ur grinding gears in the process. also you should get new bearings (thrust and spiggot) in the clutch kit

 

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Remember to check that the pedal cluster bracket has started to break, or the firewall mounting point for the clucth cable hasn't started to crack out. but what your saying sounds like the clutch is had it. put in a PBR sports one, the pretty yellow ones, they work pretty well for the money.
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