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 Post subject: New brakes upgrade
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:13 pm 
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Hi all, very soon i am upgrading my braking system. I have decided to get DBA slotted and x drilled rotors. And EBC redstuff pads.

But just a few questions, the people installing the gear said that i should put a softer pad like Protek pads as they wont warp the rotors as much as a harder pad (such as the redsuffs).

Obviosuly thiers the downside to that.. They also said that mabe Ferrodo pads might be good also..

So what do you guys think? The redstuff pads are $100 more than the Proteks but the redstuffs are a ceramic brake pad so obviously the performance is far greater, but if they warp my rotors out quicker u cant get them machined can you.. so would it pay just to get the softer pads?

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 Post subject: Re: New brakes upgrade
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:31 pm 
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my brother inlaw has just his dba gold, x drilled/slotted's machined without a drama. he is running ferodo pads but doesnt give it a hard time
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 Post subject: Re: New brakes upgrade
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:51 pm 
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Are you getting the expensive dba cross drilled rotors or the normal ones?

The cross drilled rotors will warp easier than the slotted ones. The more expensive rotors (gold/4000 series) use a different heat treatment which helps to reduce this. For a street car running stock size brakes I would recommend just sticking with slotted as there is less chance of warping.

In the end if you intend to do any serious braking you will will inevitably warp rotors quickly on the stock sized rotor/caliper brakes, regardless of the rotor.

As far as pads go I would go with the softer pad.

 

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 Post subject: Re: New brakes upgrade
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:01 pm 
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I use Ferrodo Exel's and have never warped a rotor. I don't run DBA rotors though. I know plenty of people who use Bendix pads and have warped DBA's. I am personally not a fan of DBA rotors.

 

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 Post subject: Re: New brakes upgrade
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:23 pm 
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The 4000 series were the ones im looking at but i might go for just the normal type but slotted only.. However sometime early next year i will be supercharging the XR so thats why i was looking at the ceramic redstuff brake pads as well..

I might just see what other type of brakes they can get for me as im not too keen for protek ones.

80-90% of my driving is all short trips around town. so i dont exactly go out onto the open road and *drive* the car all that much as id like too :twisted:

Well ive got a couple more weeks till i get it, so i will do a bit more research i think.

Thanks for the replies so far. :mrgreen:

 

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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:58 pm 
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depending on the car you drive, go with bendix ultimate, i've never had any problems with it. i just installed a set of 4 yesterday, now the car is braking like a charm, no noise or squeal and very smooth...
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 Post subject: Re: New brakes upgrade
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:11 pm 
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Bendix ulimate are good except for the constant cleaning of your wheels, the brake dust is terrible.

on another note,

If you haven't bought the x drilled and slotted yet... don't. They crack!
Mine developed slight cracks near all the cross drills and eventually cracked right through! Just get the slotted, i went to slotted after this, and have not had a problem since.

Im not a big fan of dba, i have heard/had to many problems. I might go with rda next time.

 

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 Post subject: Re: New brakes upgrade
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:14 pm 
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Bendix ulimate are good except for the constant cleaning of your wheels, the brake dust is terrible.

on another note,

If you haven't bought the x drilled and slotted yet... don't. They crack!
Mine developed slight cracks near all the cross drills and eventually cracked right through! Just get the slotted, i went to slotted after this, and have not had a problem since.

Im not a big fan of dba, i have heard/had to many problems. I might go with rda next time.


i totally agree with you on this one, cross drilled ones crack like a drugdealer.
by the way which pads have you found have the least brake dust? yet still perform just as well as Bendix? any suggestions cheers
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 Post subject: Re: New brakes upgrade
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:46 pm 
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I got DBA 4000 wiper slotted on mine with DBA greenstuff, they do work awesome but i go through pads every 13-15,000k's. If you wanna spend a bit extra i would get the big brake kit for your car with the 2 pot calipers and 330mm rotor, im saving for it at the moment. Should work good and will look nice.

 

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 Post subject: Re: New brakes upgrade
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:22 am 
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Cool thanks for the heads up i may just go for slotted rotors, with a softer type pad. Should still do the job okay.

 

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 Post subject: Re: New brakes upgrade
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:35 pm 
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EBC redstuff pads are more track oriented and won't have good cold bite. They will work perform their best once they are up to their designed operating temperature.
Bendix ultimates are somewhat abrasive against disc rotors but work well.
I have DBA 4000 series slotted rotors and -
* I have run EBC greenstuff pads and would happily recommend them.
* I am currently running a set of Ferodo race pads ( DB1108FF ) and they work better than I expected for just street performance braking.

 

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 Post subject: Re: New brakes upgrade
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:42 pm 
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Yeah i was thinking either greenstuff or a Ferodo pad, the place thats installing it can get ferodo's so i might just go with them for now..

Cheers peeps.

 

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 Post subject: Re: New brakes upgrade
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:14 am 
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* I am currently running a set of Ferodo race pads ( DB1108FF ) and they work better than I expected for just street performance braking.

yeah I just whacked a set of Formulas in the F6, I'm pretty happy with them.
Not sure how they would feel on E-Series, but I've found the pedal is a bit wooden when they are dead cold, but once they've got some heat they feel really good and have excellent bite.
They aren't dusty either.

I've had Bendix Ultimates on all my E-Series and they've been great, but very dusty.

 

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 Post subject: Re: New brakes upgrade
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:53 am 
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Ive decided im going to go with the following, getting quotes done up to get it all installed this week.

Front and back rotors will be DBA 4000 series Slotted only, with Ferodo Zero or Excel pads getting quotes on the different pads. But these pads seem to be what im looking for, both respond well for harder driving and dont require to much heat to work properly and they also have a low dust rating.

If my car wasnt a daily driver id go the EBC redstuff but considering i drive the car nearly everyday and its alot of stop start driving, these should be fine.

Will let you know how much its gonna cost, just to see whether im gettin ripped or not.

 

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 Post subject: Re: New brakes upgrade
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:53 am 
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As u said u want it for daily driving i would waste money on DBA 4000 rotors unless u want 2 as there better quality and are made with a better metal.

Ive used DBA standard slotted series with Bendix Ultimate pads and they were great

Also i would consider braided lines and better brake fluid

Call these guys and speak to CAM and say ur from this forum as he used to be a sponcer and gives good prices. I buy my stuff from him and it gets delivered to my door and save basically $100.00

http://www.hightekbrakes.com.au/

 

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