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 Post subject: Replacing upper and lower ball joints and camber kit
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:14 pm 
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I am going to be replacing my ball joints and changing from a shim type camber kit to a thread adjustable kit.

Are there better ways/tools to aid in separating the steering knuckle?
I ask as When I changed my rack I had a hard time removing the tie rod ends so I assume 4 ball joints and 2 tie rod ends will give me grief.

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 Post subject: Re: Replacing upper and lower ball joints and camber kit
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:46 pm 
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EFFUTURA4.05SP wrote:
I am going to be replacing my ball joints and changing from a shim type camber kit to a thread adjustable kit.

Are there better ways/tools to aid in separating the steering knuckle?
I ask as When I changed my rack I had a hard time removing the tie rod ends so I assume 4 ball joints and 2 tie rod ends will give me grief.

Cheers

hammer hit the the sides,the shodk loosens the tapers,i did my rh side in 1hr today 2-3 hits each and they are new,old ones the same or you can buy the forks.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Replacing upper and lower ball joints and camber kit
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:48 pm 
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EFFUTURA4.05SP wrote:
I am going to be replacing my ball joints and changing from a shim type camber kit to a thread adjustable kit.

Are there better ways/tools to aid in separating the steering knuckle?
I ask as When I changed my rack I had a hard time removing the tie rod ends so I assume 4 ball joints and 2 tie rod ends will give me grief.

Cheers

i like the shims better

 

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 Post subject: Re: Replacing upper and lower ball joints and camber kit
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:11 pm 
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hans hartman wrote:
EFFUTURA4.05SP wrote:
I am going to be replacing my ball joints and changing from a shim type camber kit to a thread adjustable kit.

Are there better ways/tools to aid in separating the steering knuckle?
I ask as When I changed my rack I had a hard time removing the tie rod ends so I assume 4 ball joints and 2 tie rod ends will give me grief.

Cheers

hammer hit the the sides,the shodk loosens the tapers,i did my rh side in 1hr today 2-3 hits each and they are new,old ones the same or you can buy the forks.


Cheers mate, I am thinking getting the air hammer onto the steering knuckles, That should loosen them up a bit!

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EFFUTURA4.05SP wrote:
I am going to be replacing my ball joints and changing from a shim type camber kit to a thread adjustable kit.

Are there better ways/tools to aid in separating the steering knuckle?
I ask as When I changed my rack I had a hard time removing the tie rod ends so I assume 4 ball joints and 2 tie rod ends will give me grief.

Cheers

i like the shims better


Why is that?

Mine is shimmed to the limits and the camber is still present.. Understandably the ball joints arent helping but I have the nolothane kits and the control arm bushes are effed too..

 

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 Post subject: Re: Replacing upper and lower ball joints and camber kit
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:37 pm 
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Why is that?

Mine is shimmed to the limits and the camber is still present.. Understandably the ball joints arent helping but I have the nolothane kits and the control arm bushes are effed too.. i re bushed the xr8 with nolathane bushes,new ball joints and castor kit-shimmed,20+ shims each bolt and got -1 deg each side,rang the owner and spoke about it,i wanted 0,he said _1 deg is fine,tyre wear is even,seems ok and locked up solid.was -3 1\2 deg for racing-cops chaser,todays was the LTD 302W-BENT STUB AXLE :shock: :shock: wheel alignment was perfect,so im happy

 

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 Post subject: Re: Replacing upper and lower ball joints and camber kit
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:15 pm 
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Yeah, I just bashed the s**t out of each ball joint with a hammer starting with the top then tie rods and lastly the lower ones, was quite effective :D .

Tomorrow I will buy a shop press and install the new ball joints..

Also got the new camber kits installed (were shim type after all!! :x ) Well the bushes were shot so, MEH..

Cheers Hans for the advice!

 

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 Post subject: Re: Replacing upper and lower ball joints and camber kit
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:33 pm 
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EFFUTURA4.05SP wrote:
Yeah, I just bashed the s**t out of each ball joint with a hammer starting with the top then tie rods and lastly the lower ones, was quite effective :D .

Tomorrow I will buy a shop press and install the new ball joints..

Also got the new camber kits installed (were shim type after all!! :x ) Well the bushes were shot so, MEH..

Cheers Hans for the advice!

you will need the the dies for them and a 20 ton press,circlip pliers

 

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 Post subject: Re: Replacing upper and lower ball joints and camber kit
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:38 pm 
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Do you honestly need a 20 ton press?? thats insane!

So the 6 ton unit I was going to buy isnt sufficient?

Got the circlip pliers and was going to use an offcut from a steel pipe to fit the ball joints.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Replacing upper and lower ball joints and camber kit
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:19 pm 
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EFFUTURA4.05SP wrote:
Do you honestly need a 20 ton press?? thats insane!

So the 6 ton unit I was going to buy isnt sufficient?

Got the circlip pliers and was going to use an offcut from a steel pipe to fit the ball joints.

6 big may be,10-15 might,20 i think easy as most work shops have them.hav to push on the out side,square press.how tight, i dont know as the serated bit squashes to fit the hole,measure the new ones for pipe sizes and length.pedders done mine last week.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Replacing upper and lower ball joints and camber kit
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:27 pm 
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Well fortunately I am the am the manager at Super Cheap so if the 6 tonner doesnt do the job, we can have a nice display for customers to look at I suppose.. :lol: .

I have seen (though we do not sell) some G clamp looking ball joint presses that look like they'd do the job too so thats always an option.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Replacing upper and lower ball joints and camber kit
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:24 pm 
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So I got the ball joints out (makes one hell of a sound when they let go) but unfortunately the lower ones are alot harder to press in and I could only get the top ones in :cry:

So looks like it will be a trip to the professionals on Tuesday :cry: They were an absolute pain anyway!

Lesson here: 6 ton shop press isnt sufficient.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Replacing upper and lower ball joints and camber kit
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:42 am 
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Or buy one of these, you should be able to get a good price

http://www.ggtechnics.com.au/products/g ... ctions.pdf

Mr220kw :)
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:14 pm 
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Or buy one of these, you should be able to get a good price

http://www.ggtechnics.com.au/products/g ... ctions.pdf

Mr220kw :)


I have seen these used before (simmilar anyway)
They do seem to be alot less awkward to operate..BUT the ball joints on an EF are in the knuckle not the control arm so I would have to buy a big a** vice to stop them from moving..

I will look into this though as we do have a few decent specialty tool suppliers we order from.

Cheers for that mr220kw!

 

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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:18 pm 
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HAHAHAHAHAHA....

Just rang work and priced one.... $700.00 retail!!! f**k that!

Oh well back to the drawing board

 

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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:26 pm 
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HAHAHAHAHAHA....

Just rang work and priced one.... $700.00 retail!!! f**k that!

Oh well back to the drawing board

know any fabrication mates?

 

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