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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:44 am 
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As the subject implies.
Can it be done?
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:47 am 
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Why would you?

 

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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:56 am 
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Theoretically speaking.
Can it be done? If i was to install original springs again, can these shocks be used?
Just want to get opinions.
Personally, i dont see why this is not possible.
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:18 am 
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The only issue that I can see is that the shock will be at 90% of its max stroke at the stock springs normal ride height, meaning the shock will hang on a fairly regular basis, potentially causing a rough ride and damage to the shock.

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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:57 pm 
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BenJ wrote:
The only issue that I can see is that the shock will be at 90% of its max stroke at the stock springs normal ride height, meaning the shock will hang on a fairly regular basis, potentially causing a rough ride and damage to the shock.

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Even if the shock is at full flex, and exceeds that of the diff mounting points whilst at full droop? My theory is that when the car is then lowered onto the ground at normal ride height, the shock should actually compress enough to make it operational within normal limits.
But then again i could be wrong.
See my point people?
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:26 pm 
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^^^ the reverse is true the shock will compress the spring when installed

bad idea get lower springs or standard shocks

 

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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:28 pm 
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In the E Series Falcons, the shock controls how far the axel drops, meaning it will often have the full weight of the diff assembly hanging off it.

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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:03 pm 
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if you did this would it effectively give you higher spring rate (seeing as the spring will already be partially compressed)

 

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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:27 pm 
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if you did this would it effectively give you higher spring rate (seeing as the spring will already be partially compressed)


I don't believe so. The spring would sit at the normal position with the weight of the car on it, however the shock would only just be compressed a little. At full spring compression the shock may only be at two thirds its full compression as it is desginged to compress further.

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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:25 am 
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I concur with everything BenJ has said. Limited droop is not good, nor is spring bind. However, i would always check that "shocks for a lowered car" are actually shorter than stock. In my experience in the suspension industry shocks for lowered and raised vehicles are the same length as stock about 85% of the time, to put a rough figure on it.

 

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what about the reverse of the threads title.. how about lower springs on factory shocks? ie if you could get a set of low springs, could you get away with leaving the standard shocks in until you could afford to go to shortened shocks??

 

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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 1:07 am 
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what about the reverse of the threads title.. how about lower springs on factory shocks? ie if you could get a set of low springs, could you get away with leaving the standard shocks in until you could afford to go to shortened shocks??


Yes, you are correct in that the reverse will apply. The shock will bottom out on a very regular basis. You can get away with this on lows, but I wouldn't recommend it on super lows. Experience speaking here.

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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 2:42 am 
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More Grunt wrote:
what about the reverse of the threads title.. how about lower springs on factory shocks? ie if you could get a set of low springs, could you get away with leaving the standard shocks in until you could afford to go to shortened shocks??


Standard shocks on supers/ultras = fked very fast lol - both from experience, but you can use them.

 

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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 2:55 am 
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i gotta agree... running selby lows with standard shocks. smooth roads its fine no worries, but say speed bump i gotta go so slow over them its just stupid.

first time i bottomed out i thought i tore a chunk out of the bottom of the chasis it was that bad... still catches me unaware when i do it even now.

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BenJ wrote:
More Grunt wrote:
what about the reverse of the threads title.. how about lower springs on factory shocks? ie if you could get a set of low springs, could you get away with leaving the standard shocks in until you could afford to go to shortened shocks??


Yes, you are correct in that the reverse will apply. The shock will bottom out on a very regular basis. You can get away with this on lows, but I wouldn't recommend it on super lows. Experience speaking here.

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ah see id be only going lows, prolly whiteline. they are plenty low enough for me if theres 17s in the arches.

 

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