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 Post subject: Why are BA Brakes so s**t
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:31 am 
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as im driving from 60kms to full brake holding the steering wheel it fells like im holding a jackhammer
im not a small bloke either and it shakes the s**t out of my arms... i have changed the rotors and pads and the problem is still occuring any suggestions as what it could be im thinking Abs issues....?

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:49 am 
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This will be the 3rd thread i've said this to in as many days! Might be all i know! :shock:

Anyway, take your car to ford for diagnostics... could be the ABS sensor. I had mine replaced and things were schmick after that (oh and the $1000 brake upgrade from hightek brakes helped too)
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:36 am 
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What about the rears? they may need machining

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:38 pm 
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Thanks for your input

im fkn sick of the brakes does my head in i put DBA slotted on with Benedix Ultimates and they where fone for 8000k's now there cactus again

Im going machining then take it from there..... thanks again 8-)

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:03 pm 
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In early Commo's life they had this problem. Was due to bearing adjustment allowing too much play

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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:37 pm 
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Thanks will check this out aswell

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:44 pm 
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there is a TSB out on this, need to change the anti rattle clips on the brake pads, changes the angle of the pad or something.
cant remember exactly, has been a while.
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:02 am 
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Along a similar line -my brakes dont shudder,but it seems like the front calipers have a continuous tinktinktink as I drive on bumpy streets.Do you reckon I need to chase up some of these pad clips, or is there another possible reason(rattly/loose calipers or similar)?

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:07 am 
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there is a TSB out on this, need to change the anti rattle clips on the brake pads, changes the angle of the pad or something.
cant remember exactly, has been a while.


that wouldn't change anything for all of us runing aftermarket pads though would it.

i have bendix ultimates on dba disks on the front. they warped in about 8 months. Fact is the b series is a real barge and the brakes do work hard to pull them up.

As someone said on here a long time ago, ford factory disks aren't made of steel, more like cheese.

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:23 pm 
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i can remember reading an article about the quality of the rotors sourced by ford when the BA's came out. aparently the contract with the supplier had no stipulation about the quality of metal used in the construction, so they used whatever garbage they could find. you may get lucky and have a decent set but chances are they will be rubbish.

also get the wheel bearings adjusted, as per nigels recomendation.

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:24 pm 
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i upgraded my front rotors to DBA 4000 rotors and ebc greenstuffs, been over 18 months now and still no shudder.. i'd reccommend the 4000s over the regular DBA slotteds, they appear to be less prone to warping...

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:40 pm 
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i can remember reading an article about the quality of the rotors sourced by ford when the BA's came out. aparently the contract with the supplier had no stipulation about the quality of metal used in the construction, so they used whatever garbage they could find. you may get lucky and have a decent set but chances are they will be rubbish.

also get the wheel bearings adjusted, as per nigels recomendation.


i never heard this, but in my time at ford i machined more then my fair share of discs and changed the antirattle clips supplied as per TSB as well as a thorough clean of the hub and inside of disc to ensure as good as possible mating surface...oohhhh and i just remembered, wheel nut torque is critical too, 100ft/lb from memory, we had torque sticks supplied by Ford MoCo HQ to do the job. So yeah, all these elements combined ensured a near 100 % success rate for my cars leaving the W/S.
No adjustment in BA wheel bearings, unless you mean retorquing the hub nut?
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:47 pm 
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also could be, no offence crap bendix brake pads, i see this at work every week people with ba's get new disc and bendix pads from brake outlets then a few weeks later they come to my work and ask why its suddering like a b**ch and i replace the pads with trw pads, dusty but most ba owners was there car weekly and machine the disc and they love the better braking and no shudder

 

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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:42 am 
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heard it was real s**t rotor material and very STANDARD pad material. usually aftermarket (rda dba etc) rotors fix them right up

 

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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:19 pm 
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You said you replaced the rotors?
With new ones or secondhand? were they machined?
New bearings?
Correct bearing torque? they loosen up after being replaced in a few thousand Klm.
Cleaned and lubricated caliper slides?

I would be astounded that new discs and pads would have the shakes.

My EF has this problem but I got it working real nice with all of the above sorted out. I am due to do it again but it's not that bad except at 100kph.

 

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