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 Post subject: ZF service
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:35 pm 
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I had a quick search and couldn't find anything which can explain it to me.

What does a service on the 6 speed auto involve and how much should I expect to pay. I've heard that they don't need servicing but I can't see how that could be.
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 Post subject: Re: ZF service
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:39 pm 
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the genius's at Ford reckon the ZF's don't need a oil change under normal conditions lol.

now don't you need the scan tool to tell when the auto is at the right temp so you can remove the little drainer and drain the excess? i know it's like that on Jaguars. similiar boxes?

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:41 pm 
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the genius's at Ford reckon the ZF's don't need a oil change under normal conditions lol.



haha, didnt they also say that back in 1996 when they deleted the dipstick from E series trans? :lol:

 

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 Post subject: Re: ZF service
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:43 pm 
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alfy wrote:
WILDEB wrote:
the genius's at Ford reckon the ZF's don't need a oil change under normal conditions lol.



haha, didnt they also say that back in 1996 when they deleted the dipstick from E series trans? :lol:


probably. i'd hate to see the inside of an auto that someone actually listened to that!

 

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 Post subject: Re: ZF service
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:19 am 
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So is it even something which Ford would do? Given that they reckon the box doesn't need servicing? Do any mechanics apart from the ford blokes have the scan tool that would let them change the oil?
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:09 pm 
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So is it even something which Ford would do? Given that they reckon the box doesn't need servicing? Do any mechanics apart from the ford blokes have the scan tool that would let them change the oil?


take it to a trans specialist. if you have no idea what your doin don't touch it

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:38 pm 
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Well in that case can anyone recommend a place in Newcastle or Maitland?
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:34 pm 
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:26 pm 
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I know it is a little different but with the JCB loader at work it is running a ZF style 6 speed gearbox (obliviously not the same gearbox in your car), But they reckon and so does the manual that it never need to be serviced. So far nearly 1000 hours and no dramas yet (touch wood). And it is treated harder than any car gearbox ie. slamming forward and reverse all day long under full throttle day after day, Not to worry it was designed to be abused like that for the type of work it does.
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 Post subject: Re: ZF service
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:43 am 
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I have serviced a ZF 6sp tranny. It cost heaps for the fluid, only available from Ford too, as well as the pan which is the filter too.
The oil was very dark, and the new oil looks like 10W30 engine oil, a light amber colour.
The fluid was about $44 a litre.

 

 

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 Post subject: Re: ZF service
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:52 am 
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so kiddies. the moral is get your ZF serviced. Ford is talking smack. if you buy the car, you've got to be able to afford to maintain it. why do you thing a own a EB as a daily? cheap to maintain mechanically. and a EA SVO as a project (well actually thats hard to get body parts for, but thats not the point).

 

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 Post subject: Re: ZF service
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:45 am 
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ZF service from Ford is $800 to $900. As has been said, the fluid isn't cheap, between $40 and $60 a litre, and is ONLY available from Ford.

The oil filters on these are part of the sump itself on the earlier models, so you need to change the whole sump as well (which is s**t plastic). Unless you want to spring for a later model metal sump that has the filter seperate. Expect around $300 for that, but will save on later servicings.

Alot of the guys on the XR6T.com forums are using Tranzmax Z with excellent results, but only after the warranty has expired. It's a s**t cheaper and apparently makes the box feel better.

Maybe have a browse there to see if there is anyone local to you that has serviced these things before.

I'm the same as you, I'm dreading the first time I have to get this thing serviced.
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 Post subject: Re: ZF service
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:06 am 
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Ouch. $8-900 just for the trans service.
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 Post subject: Re: ZF service
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:12 am 
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Well.. Genuine fluid is about $400, then new filter $250 to $300... Then labour.

Hence why alot of guys piss off the standard sump/filter arrangement and use Tranzmax Z. The first service will cost you about $600. Then each subsequent service drops to about $300 or so.
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:24 am 
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That sounds ok but are you sure they're using that fluid in the ZF's. I've searched and can only find references to it being used in the t56.
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