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 Post subject: Re: ETIS info... Anyone know about NP and HP stats?
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:44 am 
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Also the HO designation came about in the 1980's from the changeover from carburetted to EFI as well as differentiating the power levels between the pony car engine and the Truck engine (which is a completely different kettle of fish I'll save for another day).
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 Post subject: Re: ETIS info... Anyone know about NP and HP stats?
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:08 am 
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Just remember that these engines are imported so the HO designation is from the US Mustang. with 225hp. The non-HO engine in the U.S. has only 165hp and was used in big yank cars where only off-idle torque was the concern. Quite a few people got stung by Oz importers in the early days who flogged these off as HO engines. It was easy to tell externally though as they had grey 14lb injectors, 45mm t-body and no HO cast into the upper plus they had the old 289/302 firing order.
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 Post subject: Re: ETIS info... Anyone know about NP and HP stats?
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:59 pm 
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HHMmm, Interdasting information!!

I have noticed that these engines are pretty slug like, with good low down torque over horsepower.

 

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 Post subject: Re: ETIS info... Anyone know about NP and HP stats?
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:55 pm 
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They are still peaky compared to a 5.4 3V from a B series falcon.
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 Post subject: Re: ETIS info... Anyone know about NP and HP stats?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:00 am 
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Yeah, they arent super quick to wind up, but you feel them pulling as they do.

 

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 Post subject: Re: ETIS info... Anyone know about NP and HP stats?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:29 am 
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xcabbi wrote:
Early El XR8's were still 165kw. They still had the same crappy High Output intake, the same crappy E7 cylinder heads, the same cam and the same hideously crap exhaust manifold.

The only mechanical difference between all the HO (cough cough) spec engines was in the early 90's the engines were built with factory fitted forged pistons. As for electrical, all of the pre smartlock EB V8's ran a barometric air pressure sensor (same as fox body mustangs with the A9L and A9P ECU's). It's nothing more than a Map sensor with the house disconnected.
With the introducion of smartlock Ford AU ditched the BAP. At the same time in the US the SN95 mustang came out and they didn't have a Bap either. They also had the air intake temp sensor relocated from the base of the #5 runner to the air intake pipe before the throttle body. Something we didn't here until the 98 Explorer V8 engine was dumped into the AU Falcon (the windsor was gone from everything except the F truck and explorer from around 94/95 onwards. Everything else was 4.6 modular).

Now with the late EL V8 and the explorer intake, its different than the AU explorer. The EL still has an EGR port and it still has the intake temp sensor at the #5 runner position. The AU doesn't have EGR because it has fast burn GT40P heads which have no provision for EGR.
The reason the AU with its better heads and intake only makes 10 more kW than almost anything before it is it because it has a smaller cam and matching weak valve springs. You have to remember this engine came from a low revving 4x4/Suv not a pony car like everything before it.


As I said earlier, EF and EL XR8's were 170kw, they had a twin exhaust, not a single like the 165kw motors. It was crap but it was still different from earlier models and the 165kw engine fitted to non XR's. The 185kw EL XR's came later.
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