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 Post subject: Upper Mounting Cap nuts AU2
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:08 pm 
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I just tightened one of the Mounting Cap nuts to prescribed torque of 80Nm, damn bolt thread snapped.

In 80 Nm correct or is it too much? Will this cause any instability issues when I drive?

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 Post subject: Re: Upper Mounting Cap nuts AU2
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:29 pm 
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bondy99 wrote:
Hi,

Does anyone know how one can tighten to spec the pivot bolt on Upper Control Arm when vehicle is on the ground? Seems a bit hard to get at it.

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Peter



bondy99 wrote:
I just tightened one of the Mounting Cap nuts to prescribed torque of 80Nm, damn bolt thread snapped.

In 80 Nm correct or is it too much? Will this cause any instability issues when I drive?

Regards
Peter


do you mean the bolts coming thru the inner guard on top or on side?
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 Post subject: Re: Upper Mounting Cap nuts AU2
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:41 pm 
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The bolts coming through the inner guard at the top, underneath is the coil spring with Shock Absorber in the middle.
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 Post subject: Re: Upper Mounting Cap nuts AU2
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:12 pm 
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bondy99 wrote:
The bolts coming through the inner guard at the top, underneath is the coil spring with Shock Absorber in the middle.



pity we are not closer........


have some here that you could have & the spec going by the max ellory is 35 NM's ... bit hard to read & understand?!. factory EA-EB-ED mentions 40 NM. factory EF-EL same as the EA-ED, 40 NM's.

you will have to replace .... best not to drive too much.
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 Post subject: Re: Upper Mounting Cap nuts AU2
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:36 pm 
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Them the breaks hey!

This is what I read in Gregory's No 274 Falcon 1998-2002

Chapter 13
Steering Gear
Mounting nuts 80Nm

Suspension Unit Upper mounting bolts 35Nm

Oops, I think it should have been 35Nm.

Hopefully there is a wrecker nearby that may have one.

I hope its not a big job to replace it.
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 Post subject: Re: Upper Mounting Cap nuts AU2
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:56 pm 
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bondy99 wrote:
Them the breaks hey!

This is what I read in Gregory's No 274 Falcon 1998-2002

Chapter 13
Steering Gear
Mounting nuts 80Nm

Suspension Unit Upper mounting bolts 35Nm

Oops, I think it should have been 35Nm.

Hopefully there is a wrecker nearby that may have one.

I hope its not a big job to replace it.


haha . . . ...... yeah the max wasn't easy peasy to read either! ... won't be hard . . but you will need a spring compressor [x2] so you can move spring out of the way.
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 Post subject: Re: Upper Mounting Cap nuts AU2
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:22 am 
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Yeah, they don't make the reading of the book very clear.

2 Spring compressors, hmmm, I had a lot of drama with the other spring compressors I had, the mongrels kept slipping and never could get them to work properly so I put them in the bin ages ago.

Too many spring compressor variants around, choosing one that works good is the lottery ticket.
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:12 am 
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bondy99 wrote:
Yeah, they don't make the reading of the book very clear.

2 Spring compressors, hmmm, I had a lot of drama with the other spring compressors I had, the mongrels kept slipping and never could get them to work properly so I put them in the bin ages ago.

Too many spring compressor variants around, choosing one that works good is the lottery ticket.



yeah, the ones i have are.............. bit suss :shock:
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 Post subject: Re: Upper Mounting Cap nuts AU2
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:07 am 
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Went to Beenleigh Wreckers earlier today to see if I can get those mounting pads. Bloke reckons they are struts and part of the shock absorber and those struts have bearings.

I disagreed with the bloke as I've never seen bearings in that mount, then again, I did not pull them apart in the past.

He never had any AU's. Even if he did have he said I needed to purchase the spring, shocky and the struts as one unit. No guarantee of any leaks. Even if he did have any it would be about $180.00.

Stuff that.

I might have to buy one including postage costs from you if its cheap enough . I'll try another 2 wreckers and see what they can come up with.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:55 am 
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wow! :shock:


yeah it won't be near that price including postage either :mrgreen:


pm me any probs


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 Post subject: Re: Upper Mounting Cap nuts AU2
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:01 am 
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Managed to get a complete unit from Capalaba Wreckers, from an AUIII, original red Monroe gas for $35.00.

Bump stop was degraded so purchased a new bump stop.

Hopefully the shock from the AUIII is still in good condition. As soon as I can get that bump stop placed on. It might be easier to swap the entire unit over, then try to get the other fixed whilst out of the car. Can always weld a new stud / bolt on the snapped one, hey!
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 Post subject: Re: Upper Mounting Cap nuts AU2
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:11 am 
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Ended up getting a suspension place to compress the spring to replace bump stop and respring for $20.00. Had a mongrel time removing the damaged strut assembly from vehicle having no crow bar to level pressure. I was not going to undo lower ball joint, pain in the butt to retention without ramps.

Replacement spring is original Monroe, 9 coils and further apart. The one I removed has King Springs. 11 coils and less further apart.

Going to get spring compressed and remove mounting cap, get 3 new high tensile bolts, cut to size and weld them using MIG. At least I'll have a near new one in case the replacement goes bung.

Thanks for the help.
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 Post subject: Re: Upper Mounting Cap nuts AU2
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:08 pm 
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Glad you were able to fix the issue. :)
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 Post subject: Re: Upper Mounting Cap nuts AU2
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:19 pm 
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Papa Smurf,

So am I, thanks to all.

Just one question though. I want to repair the damaged one. I have purchased 3 bolts with the same thread type, the bolt head has 8.8 stamped on it, (mostly used in construction) I will need to make the thread longer and weld the bolts from underneath using the existing stud location. The bolts are not hardened steel.

Question is, would those construction bolts be equivalent to the bolts used in the automotive industry? Reason I ask is twofold.

Firstly, I can't find a store that sells automotive bolts (wreckers would be no good for this one) , secondly, will they withstand / take the pressure / load?

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 Post subject: Re: Upper Mounting Cap nuts AU2
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:14 am 
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I would say that you need a grade 8 bolt. I can't tell you if what you have would be the same?

If you were in NSW I could tell you where to buy bolts but don't know in QLD. Sorry

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