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 Post subject: Re: Ford EF - EL 4.0 SOHC Supercharger systems
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:19 am 
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Cheers Shav,

I will ask D&T the cost difference from a 2.5 - 3.0

Maybe the 4480's would be better for the hills.


The 4480's are comp spec headers. They will cost more, but they give power everywhere, not just down low. Do you live north or south of the city?]

I went to Bruce Heinrich to get my Raptor kit fitted as well as the exhaust and headers done. He does exhausts as well as tuning for boost etc. A well known name in the Ford community in SA. He is located on Donegal Road in Lonsdale and there isnt much he doesnt know about boost.

I was one of the first Raptor clients he has dealt with as he usually deals with CAPA, but he knows how to fit it all and get it tuned right.

I would see him and get EVERYTHING done thru him rather than go to this place and that place. Much easier and you'll probably save some money.


Whats Bruce's business name? i will have to pay him a visit as well, i am also looking at getting my Xr6 supercharged soon as well. However im looking at only trying to make roughly 225-250rwkw at this stage. Not sure still thou, but thanks for the tip :-P


The business name is Heinrich Performance Tuning & BRE. Just google Heinrich performance tuning.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Ford EF - EL 4.0 SOHC Supercharger systems
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:21 am 
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Small update, I briefly saw StealthAU at the post office late last week, informed him that this week should get use sorted on starting on the AU intercooler kits ....... I think around Thursday should see us rolling on it.


Thats great news Tim. Looking forward to seeing how well Brendans goes. Its the closest thing I'll get to seeing how mine will go.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Ford EF - EL 4.0 SOHC Supercharger systems
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:19 pm 
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Hi JoeXR6,
On a 28 -30C day air temp before intercooler 70 - 80C , air temp into intake throttle body approx 25-26C .While driving , temp will will stay around 28C if you don't have to stop to much.
Through heavy traffic temp will rise to about 38-40C but if you get clear will come back to about 30-32C.
As for pwr increase haven't had a chance to dyno it yet,but feels heaps good!Will let you know when we do.
Wife drives car and doesn't notice much difference, I notice that the pwr doesn't drop off when playing like it used to.

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 Post subject: Re: Ford EF - EL 4.0 SOHC Supercharger systems
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:00 pm 
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Hi JoeXR6,
On a 28 -30C day air temp before intercooler 70 - 80C , air temp into intake throttle body approx 25-26C .While driving , temp will will stay around 28C if you don't have to stop to much.
Through heavy traffic temp will rise to about 38-40C but if you get clear will come back to about 30-32C.
As for pwr increase haven't had a chance to dyno it yet,but feels heaps good!Will let you know when we do.
Wife drives car and doesn't notice much difference, I notice that the pwr doesn't drop off when playing like it used to.


fordfan, thanks for the update. They're some amazing results....so you're saying the cooler can get temps below ambient? Would this be in the initial few minutes of driving, say when the water has cooled overnight and is maintaining a slightly lower temp than the current ambient air temp? Just trying to work it out!

Having come out of traffic with 40C intake temp, how long does it take to get back down to the 30-32C you mentioned?

Any comments on changes to other driving characteristics like low rpm thottle response, top end power, fuel economy, etc?

Thanks again for the detailed feedback. I love getting some proper real world results and data!

Joe

 

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 Post subject: Re: Ford EF - EL 4.0 SOHC Supercharger systems
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:47 am 
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fordfan2 wrote:
Hi JoeXR6,
On a 28 -30C day air temp before intercooler 70 - 80C , air temp into intake throttle body approx 25-26C .While driving , temp will will stay around 28C if you don't have to stop to much.
Through heavy traffic temp will rise to about 38-40C but if you get clear will come back to about 30-32C.
As for pwr increase haven't had a chance to dyno it yet,but feels heaps good!Will let you know when we do.
Wife drives car and doesn't notice much difference, I notice that the pwr doesn't drop off when playing like it used to.


I am much like Joe, and would like to know the same questions. But from what you are saying, the consistant lower intake temps is what makes this unit so good.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Ford EF - EL 4.0 SOHC Supercharger systems
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:26 pm 
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Fordfan rang me today to about his post ........ I hadn't even seen it until today, I also had a quick discussion with him.

On the temperatures its all good, all the evidence is there and FF logged this for weeks with his dual thermcouple multimeter thingo.

When he comments that the wife doesn't notice it (the change after intercooling) he means that she can drive it just how she wants (part throttle only) and car is docile to drive and not producing any frightening power spikes, ie same as before it was intercooled and same like when car was stock. This is exactly how he wants the car, great for her and great for him, see next paragraph.

FF tells me the car is much more powerful (not tested) and that when playing hard the power now stays constant as there is no power reduction due to heating of intake charge. FF maintains this car is now something to respect as a driver when in the fun zone, it delivers significantly more torque and this is felt more ........ especially so when cornering. Snapping the throttle to full open when cornering is really asking for big trouble :D

 

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 Post subject: Re: Ford EF - EL 4.0 SOHC Supercharger systems
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:33 pm 
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Fordfan rang me today to about his post ........ I hadn't even seen it until today, I also had a quick discussion with him.

On the temperatures its all good, all the evidence is there and FF logged this for weeks with his dual thermcouple multimeter thingo.

When he comments that the wife doesn't notice it (the change after intercooling) he means that she can drive it just how she wants (part throttle only) and car is docile to drive and not producing any frightening power spikes, ie same as before it was intercooled and same like when car was stock. This is exactly how he wants the car, great for her and great for him, see next paragraph.

FF tells me the car is much more powerful (not tested) and that when playing hard the power now stays constant as there is no power reduction due to heating of intake charge. FF maintains this car is now something to respect as a driver when in the fun zone, it delivers significantly more torque and this is felt more ........ especially so when cornering. Snapping the throttle to full open when cornering is really asking for big trouble :D


love the write up. reading it gets me excited :twisted:

 

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 Post subject: Re: Ford EF - EL 4.0 SOHC Supercharger systems
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:57 pm 
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While I haven't sifted through all 29 pages of this thread (yet), I haven't seen much mention of what cams people are using with these systems. I have a wade 1604 & jmm dev5 and a stock cam.. is whats good for n/a usually also good for forced induction?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Ford EF - EL 4.0 SOHC Supercharger systems
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:04 pm 
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I understand you have 3 camshafts

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I have a wade 1604 & jmm dev5 and a stock cam.. is whats good for n/a usually also good for forced induction


Now we don't have a lot of info to say what is best from our end, the JMM 3HL has worked pretty awesome and I for the moment would go with the better NA cams, safe enough bet.

I will get around the forums a bit more if you could and see what else is recommended with superchargers. I simply haven't had the time to find out this kind of info.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Ford EF - EL 4.0 SOHC Supercharger systems
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:05 pm 
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Fair enough mate, theres certainly enough info on the subject on FM, was just wondering if there was any specific recommendations

 

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 Post subject: Re: Ford EF - EL 4.0 SOHC Supercharger systems
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:09 pm 
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just posting my update on my raptor kit..
even though my engine is an au but im running the ef/el kit..
so anyway i have had my blower upgraded and am running the smaller pulley to up the boost..
so far so good..but it was suffering a bit of compressor surge/flutter and
with tims advice ive now fitted 2x 32mm blow off valves..

this is my set up now...

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and here is a engine running vid clip..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEzTHYn7gJw



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 Post subject: Re: Ford EF - EL 4.0 SOHC Supercharger systems
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:36 am 
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get a dyno readout Troy, Id be interested to see what afr's your running as well as total power output.

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:43 am 
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Looks nice as that setup! looking forward to seing how much rwkw it makes.

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:08 pm 
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SF are chasing me for their Promo kit for the EF .........

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 Post subject: Re: Ford EF - EL 4.0 SOHC Supercharger systems
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:47 pm 
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Just a question Tim, would the raptor v unit work on a high compression modified EF XR6. If so would the power output be greater than a kit made for the EF?

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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:29 am 
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yes the kit works exceptionally well with high compression, I know of one instance where the compression was 11:1, no problem if you got a good tuner like Paul from CVE in Melb.

Yes the power output is greater due to the increase efficiency of high compression, do you have other engine work?

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:33 pm 
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Thanks Tim i like the sounds of tha!!! I was wondering for a while if the Raptor V would work or be too big for a straight six. Yes the mods are 12:1 compression, stage 3 Crow Cam, Eliminator switch chip, extractors and a 2.5 inch cat back exhaust. Im not sure what head work was done on the car but when i did a compression test it was well above standard, around 11.5:1 or 12:1 about 178 psi.

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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:59 pm 
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XTcruiser wrote:
Thanks Tim i like the sounds of tha!!! I was wondering for a while if the Raptor V would work or be too big for a straight six. Yes the mods are 12:1 compression, stage 3 Crow Cam, Eliminator switch chip, extractors and a 2.5 inch cat back exhaust. Im not sure what head work was done on the car but when i did a compression test it was well above standard, around 11.5:1 or 12:1 about 178 psi.


i think your calculations might be out there??
an au vct with 9.6:1 comp is usually around 190 psi...

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:01 pm 
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might be right there Tim il get the correct figures when i get the car tuned and dynoed at chiptorque.

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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:22 pm 
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this week i finally got around to fitting the 36lb injectors for this kit and its currently running extremely rich, so its off to be dyno tuned next week..
anyway for those who are interested in a little in car vid, i did one today..
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