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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:30 am 
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Good luck Rick... According to the FordMods tech doco you can do it all without removing the box from the car. Just how the hell does anyone do the bits on top of the box without removing the box? Would love someone to explain that.....


I have done it myself Fiend. You need a sharp chisel of decent length and a good dose of courage to start banging away at your heater box. The Blend Door Motor is attached with pop rivets from factory. You need to 'POP' (break, snap, crack) the rivets out of the heater box so you can remove the BD Motor. There are three mounts, and the front to are not so bad to get at. The rear one however is a b**ch, but is doable. When you put the replacement one in, you only need to locate the front two mounts. Use nuts and bolts, or as I did, screws and those metal clip things they screw into. You need to slide your hand in through the centre flaps to position the nut/metal clip thing in place. Make sure you locate the BD Motor arm in place, or you will be pulling the dash out again. BEFORE you bolt the dash up, test the new BD Motor in place. You should have already tested it before you attach it to the heater box.

huggiebear wrote:
feel free to come test your theories on my car.. lol im sick of warm window venting


Come on Huggie, it's not that hard mate. Just do it ya wussy.

PIMP_LTD wrote:
I can't wait to see this bonnet fitted, i'm liking what i see.


I can't wait either. I hope to convince Paulc to let me do a 'trial fit' this weekend.

Froudey wrote:
So what have you got planned this weekend?

are u doing the dog legs or should we wait.


Well, this afternoon we are going to get a head start on the dog legs. The main purpose of dealing with the rust now, is that rego is due early Feb, and I want it all dealt with before the pinkslip is done. As long as it is cut out and repaired, the finish can wait if necessary.

I am about to finish stripping the Red EB before it goes to Car Heaven. There is not much left even now, so it won't take long.

Cheers
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:46 am 
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fiend wrote:
Good luck Rick... According to the FordMods tech doco you can do it all without removing.... Would love someone to explain that.....

I have done it myself Fiend. [explanation followed] Cheers BenJ


Good man. Don't know why all that didn't seem do-able to me. After all the pissing about in engine bay getting at those damn 10mm nuts I'd almost prefer to do it in the car as your example. Nah - I'd still pull it all out to clean the lot out etc etc. I even went so far as to pull apart the electric motor a little etc etc etc. Anyways, thanks for clearing that up - those damn rivets just looked too tricky to bust out in the slither of space available.

Although, if it was a building of any nature with similar problem, I would have been quite happy doing it... Cars are not my natural environment.....

Lovable old bear wrote:
Warm window venting... Blah... blah blah...

If I can do it.............. You bloody well can.

WARM WINDOW VENTING has reminded me of a mod I had lined up but have not done yet. I will see if I can find some of my holesaw bits and have a play later. You wait!
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:41 pm 
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OH boy what is Tony up to now?

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:53 am 
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The continuing SAGA of Rust Removal . . . . .

During the week I sanded the wheel arches and hit them with a bit of Black Primer to make the repairs a bit less obvious.

On Friday arvo Luke and I went to Southwest Customs (Paulc) to commence the work on the dog legs. After some discussion, it was decided that due to a severe shortage of time before I need to get a pinkslip for rego, that we will just bog up the rust, and revisit later in the year and weld in the replacement dog legs when time is more favourable.

The following took place over a couple of days.

Left hand side.

A bit of digging around turned this
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Into this
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Paulc used fibreglass bog filler to pack the cavity and provide a very strong base, which was then sanded before normal bog was applied.
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Then I sanded it and applied a bit more bog to a couple of depressions before sanding some more, and then it was cleaned up and masked off ready for some primer.
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The wheel arch also received a bit of attention.
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After a couple of coats of black primer, it came up quite good.
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Similar work was carried out on the left side too.
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The next step is to apply some spot putty, more sanding and so on.

The main thing is that as it stands, the wagon should pass the pinkslip inspection.

I also added some NL Fairlane side repeaters, and swapped out the EB Ghia Badge for the Ghia Script from an EF11 Fairmont Ghia.

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Yes, I know, I need to wash it.


In other news, Luke and I have just about finished stripping my old Red EB Sedan, and it will be gone by weeks end.

Cheers
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:26 pm 
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Good work Ben, better to do the "quickie" to satisfy officialdom and do the job right later on....

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:14 pm 
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looking good ben, tho i can see a few bits i would have done a lil better (the crease where the dog leg meets the sill) only coz im a picky prick and like detail... untill i get over it

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:10 pm 
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I agree with RD you want to do it right the first time. Nice work mate at least you will get it past inspection, Not that i know much about that being in adelaide.

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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:37 am 
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Mate - I don't quite get why welding in the new bits would be any more time consuming than all that effort of bogging and bringing up to a good standard. I've done my right side with metal cut outs, and I reckon it was actually easier than all that bog! Also means that I left drain holes in it so water can run out and not cause more problems. Ah well, PAULC seems to know his stuff, so he'd be the best judge.... With me doing all the chopping and prep and positioning and the good welder coming along and welding... Well, he spent 15-20 minutes and I was driving the car again before going home and tidying up / hiding the welds. It's more legal to have obvious panel replacement with solid welding than it is to have some over zealous tester find a brickload of bog in a "structual" part...

Bloody clear repeaters. I loathe Australia and all its parts.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:20 am 
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Dont tell me you cant find clear indicators Fiend.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:35 am 
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Damn right Joshie. Been keeping and eye out for ages! Tried to talk two people into selling me there, but no luck... It's annoying having an orange lens out the side after going to all that effort to change the rear lights etc etc etc... If you come across a pair on your travels, you know I want them.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:14 am 
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Actually, the clear EF/EL type lenses are rare from factory anyway.

I was just lucky to score a pair from an NL wreck, along with some other bits now in the wagon. :D

BenJ

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:31 pm 
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BenJ wrote:
I was just lucky to score a pair from an NL wreck

NL Wreck? Where? Where? :)

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:32 pm 
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Damn right Joshie. Been keeping and eye out for ages! Tried to talk two people into selling me there, but no luck... It's annoying having an orange lens out the side after going to all that effort to change the rear lights etc etc etc... If you come across a pair on your travels, you know I want them.
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What about some au ones fiend
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:56 pm 
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fiend wrote:
Damn right Joshie. Been keeping and eye out for ages! Tried to talk two people into selling me there, but no luck... It's annoying having an orange lens out the side after going to all that effort to change the rear lights etc etc etc... If you come across a pair on your travels, you know I want them.
;)


What about some au ones fiend
well there is some on ebayhttp://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ford-Fairlan ... 240%3A1318

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:46 pm 
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Mate - I don't quite get why welding in the new bits would be any more time consuming than all that effort of bogging and bringing up to a good standard. I've done my right side with metal cut outs, and I reckon it was actually easier than all that bog! Also means that I left drain holes in it so water can run out and not cause more problems. Ah well, PAULC seems to know his stuff, so he'd be the best judge.... With me doing all the chopping and prep and positioning and the good welder coming along and welding... Well, he spent 15-20 minutes and I was driving the car again before going home and tidying up / hiding the welds. It's more legal to have obvious panel replacement with solid welding than it is to have some over zealous tester find a brickload of bog in a "structual" part...

Bloody clear repeaters. I loathe Australia and all its parts.


It seems to me that you have all the anwsers without all the facts mate. The job was a quick fix that took all up about 2 hours over 3 days as this all that I could spare for ben over that weekend and due to the fact of the return of his wife on the long weekend we were left with little option. I spent about 20 mins on Friday night digging out the rust and just seeing how bad the doglegs were and hitting it with a bit of rust converter. After work on Saturday, I started at 6am and finished at 2pm without a break, up at 4:30am, I went to Bens and applied a little Glass filler, thius took about 10 mins, ohh and by the way Saturday was my better halfs Birthday. Ben can over Sunday and after about an hours sanding the filler and then a light skim of body filler he was on his way. I am a metal worker by trade and if "your guy" took 20mins to cut and weld in you patch I would be checking the work. and then you have to fill and smooth the work. Check the Dog leg in a wagon and see what has to be done to get it right, If you want to spend 20mins doing a bodge weld job then you get what you deserve. As Ben knows, when he has time and I can set a day aside for him I will do the job properly and it will take longer than 20mins. I stand by my work and you can see the standards I set myself with the work i have done. In future check your facts before engaging you mouth.
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