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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:30 pm 
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hi ben, great write up!!
im not in anyway trying to have a go at u.
im a panel beater / spray painter the last 24 years. bog over paint is not usually recommended. paint will lift under bog if it is flexed.( especially bad on bonnets and around door handles) it can be done but wont last, dodgy crash shops do it all the time especially on car yard work.

bog should be put on directly to buzzed steel,after using a 24-36grit sanding disc or angle grinder, this gives the bog a larger surface area to bond with. what brand bog are u using? never heard of area having to be primed first.
u will have problems of shrinkback when painting as the primer will absorb into the bog and painted areas differently.

watch out when bogging to keep a consistent mix ,as using different amounts of hardener each time will make soft-hard- soft bog, hard bog sands slower so it makes it hard to blend the bogwork. also do not let the bog get wet as it will absorb the water and start to rust the underlying metal. all dents should be removed before the highfill primer goes on, left to dry then hard blocked back.(dont rub back through/past the primer) if u find u have lows still i would give another 3-4 heavy coats of highfill primer and rub back again. leave the primer to fully dry a week if u can before painting (top coating), this will help avoid shrinkback.

u may be able to get away with what u have done by using a isolater over the whole top of the bonnet and then reprime. isolater doesnt get rubbed before priming.

looks like you are using acrylic primer, are u respraying in acylic?
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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:14 pm 
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Hi elf100capri

Mate, no offense etc taken whatsoever.

I appreciate all comments that are constructive and are trying to educate me.

I have read your advise and will be able to follow that guide in the future. However, with this bonnet, due to the previous work involved to get it to the stage it is at now, and my non existent budget, I will have to progress forward using the materials and tools I have to hand.

I am using acrylic primer, and will be using acrylic paint. I have already purchased the Black Pearl body colour, just 1 litre, and primer and spray putty.

As this is a learning curve for me, I am prepared to redo the paint again in the future, using lessons learned.

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:31 pm 
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OK, more progress today.

After running my lovely wife and stunning daughter in to the city this morning so they can watch the ANZAC parade in Sydney, I came home and got to work on the bonnet.

TROYMAN dropped by to say hello, and with some morale support handy, I got the bog out and got to it. A few hours later I had this.

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All of the different colours were making it hard to see what was low or high, so I decided it was time to try my hand with the spray gun. I have never done this before, and it was fun setting up the Pressure Regulator and water trap, on my compressor.

TROYMAN went home, and I proceeded to mix up a pot of primer as my first spray victim.

I figured that if I stuffed it up completely, it could easily be fixed with some sandpaper.

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And I was right!!!!! What you can't see in the photo is that while laying down the primer the paint can came loose on the gun and spilled primer all over the right hand vent and bulge. AHHHHHH!!!!

I grabbed a paper towel, and wiped away all the excess. I finished laying down the primer left in the gun and after a suitable drying period got busy with the sandpaper and smoothed out all the bumpy spots from the spill.

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SOOOOOO!!!!! Todays lesson is, make sure the pot on the gun is on tightly!!!

Better to do something so silly now, than when laying down the body colour.

Tomorrow I want to lay on a couple of coats of Spray Putty followed by a light guide coat and then sand. This should soon highlight any trouble spots.

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I am considering getting some straight black to use as the first colour coat. This would be used to cover up the primer, and would allow better coverage with the Black Pearl. Does this sound like a good plan?

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:55 pm 
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i no panel beater but like some of us members i have had a lash at it. with the primer being the same run of the mill grey primer once the bonnet is preped proper and primmed to the point it is ready for paint i am thinking unless you want to put minimal coats on go with the a black base coat then the pearl.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:58 pm 
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As we discussed before Ben, I think that is a good idea, should give a better depth of paint. By the way, bonnet is looking good mate. Welcome to SWC.
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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:00 pm 
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sounds good ben, supercheap /sprints etc sell gloss jet black acrylic in a 1 litre can around $20-$30. put it on lightly,thin see thru coats. as heavy/wet coats will soften the coats underneath and also fry up any edges of bogged over primer.

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:51 pm 
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It's looking good ben, well done and keep up the good work.. :D

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:49 pm 
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What do you install that is taller, to make it shorter?

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:01 pm 
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Diff ratio. The taller the number the shorter the ratio!

 

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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:31 pm 
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Higher Blocks = Lower Ride Height
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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:37 pm 
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fiend wrote:
Higher Blocks = Lower Ride Height



You might just have got me on that one Fiend!
If you have changed your blocks BenJ can I put my hand up for the old ones? Will go well in the uterous

 

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Hey Benj are ya working towards getting this bonnet ready for the upcoming AFD

 

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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:41 pm 
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BenJ wrote:
Automotive Riddle

What do you install that is taller, to make it shorter?

BenJ


Well as it disappears it becomes shorter, then taller and then shorter, whoops now limp. Hmm I think I need some nasal delivery.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:17 pm 
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Macca wrote:
BenJ wrote:
Automotive Riddle

What do you install that is taller, to make it shorter?

BenJ


Well as it disappears it becomes shorter, then taller and then shorter, whoops now limp. Hmm I think I need some nasal delivery.


Funny Bugger. I said 'AUTOMOTIVE', not 'PENAL DEFLATIVE'.

BenJ

 

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 Post subject: Re: BenJ's EB T5 Ghia Wagon
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:24 pm 
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short shifter for the T5 bought from the USA? :twisted:

 

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