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 Post subject: Re: WAGGIN's 363 Supercharged LTD Build
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:18 pm 
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From what I've read, I shouldn't be far off 500HP N/A with my engine combo. If B&H is right with their value of 24+HP per PSI of boost, then that's another 360+HP :roll: I'm skeptical - maybe someone with a bit more knowledge can have a go at guessing numbers for me.

So even if that is right.. 860HP :shock:

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:24 pm 
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So even if that is right.. 860HP :shock:


OK, that might challenge the stock AU rear end. I hope not, but I wish you luck anyway! Watching with interest.

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 Post subject: Re: WAGGIN's 363 Supercharged LTD Build
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Not sure what boost that's on - also not sure what the FMS Crate engine they're using puts out as stock - but it's probably only doing 50-100HP over what I'd expect N/A.

 

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 Post subject: Re: WAGGIN's 363 Supercharged LTD Build
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:26 pm 
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That's an engine dyno result from a 363 N/A Crate Engine from my builder..

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 Post subject: Re: WAGGIN's 363 Supercharged LTD Build
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:37 pm 
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Looking good. I cannot imagine what such a curve would be like with your anticpated boost.

Excuse my lack of knowledge in the area, but does a 363 utilise a 302 block? I have heard of plenty of 347s that comprimise the block with their longer stroke and bore increase. How does that work with a 363?

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 Post subject: Re: WAGGIN's 363 Supercharged LTD Build
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:40 pm 
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Dart offers the 8.2" SBF block with 4.125" Bore (or 4.000" bore.. but why would you?!) 347 assumes 4.030" from memory.

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:52 pm 
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Waggin wrote:
Dart offers the 8.2" SBF block with 4.125" Bore (or 4.000" bore.. but why would you?!) 347 assumes 4.030" from memory.

4.030" rings a bell. I am so looking forward to seeing this build. OK I am an LTD softy!

Tough grandpa cars are the go. "Sorry officer, I didn't realise the car would go that fast!" Long live the Grandpa Spec! Brembos and all!

 

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 Post subject: Re: WAGGIN's 363 Supercharged LTD Build
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I'm guessing there's no way to keep IRS and go 9" eh?


With enough $ anything is possible
http://www.kitcarmag.com/howto/rcc_spec ... index.html

And from what I've seen, big power in an IRS AU, results in the cradle being torn from the body/chassis before anything actually breaks....

 

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Tough grandpa cars are the go. "Sorry officer, I didn't realise the car would go that fast!" Long live the Grandpa Spec! Brembos and all!


Yeah, I can't say that I haven't used this on a few occasions with great success 8-)

 

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Waggin wrote:
I'm guessing there's no way to keep IRS and go 9" eh?


With enough $ anything is possible
http://www.kitcarmag.com/howto/rcc_spec ... index.html

And from what I've seen, big power in an IRS AU, results in the cradle being torn from the body/chassis before anything actually breaks....


Ah, with the money that's being spent so far a bit more for the diff isn't a big deal to make it all right. But, we'll wait and see how it copes. I'm assuming launching it down the quarter mile a hundred times is more likely to break it than some spirited street driving.

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:08 am 
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Tough grandpa cars are the go. "Sorry officer, I didn't realise the car would go that fast!" Long live the Grandpa Spec! Brembos and all!


Yeah, I can't say that I haven't used this on a few occasions with great success 8-)


Rollin on 20's might give the Grandpa spec away! Ok, those brake cookers you call wheels might hide the Brembos, but deep down you know it is a Grandpa car! Love it!

 

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 Post subject: Re: WAGGIN's 363 Supercharged LTD Build
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Waggin wrote:
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Tough grandpa cars are the go. "Sorry officer, I didn't realise the car would go that fast!" Long live the Grandpa Spec! Brembos and all!


Yeah, I can't say that I haven't used this on a few occasions with great success 8-)


Rollin on 20's might give the Grandpa spec away! Ok, those brake cookers you call wheels might hide the Brembos, but deep down you know it is a Grandpa car! Love it!


It's 2012.. today's grampa isn't quite so dated as 10 years ago. Besides.. think horse and cart - those wheels are WAY bigger. Been there, done that - fashion goes in circles.

 

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Well I just spent almost 2 hours on the phone to Lawrence at B&H Superchargers chatting about his product, among other things. He's very helpful, honest and easy going. Best of all, he's an Aussie expat - so he's somewhat familiar with our Falcons here. He even spent some time with d**k Johnston Motorsport back in the 90's!

So we're just tossing up between the 1900 and 2300 blower and awaiting some more details photos of the manifolds. This really does look like the better option over the Kenne Bell.

Decision time early next week, stay tuned!

 

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get the 2300 kit. you know you want to. I can only assume you started gettin the motor build for the 2.1L KB charger.

 

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 Post subject: Re: WAGGIN's 363 Supercharged LTD Build
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:00 pm 
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Lawrence was actually saying the 1900 is fine up to 400cui - but after explaining in a bit more detail the setup of my new engine he started leaning back towards the 2300.

His only word to describe the 2300 vs the 1900 was "brutal" :)

 

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