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 Post subject: Re: My 94 Falcon XG Ute - BBM Conversion?
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:24 pm 
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I think i'm going to have too put the BBM on hold for awhile
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 Post subject: Re: My 94 Falcon XG Ute
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:25 am 
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the ECUs are different between Xg and EL, different pin setup/plug. you could use EL ecu to run everything youl just have to swap in an EL loom aswell
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 Post subject: Re: My 94 Falcon XG Ute
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:50 am 
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dahayes wrote:
the ECUs are different between Xg and EL, different pin setup/plug. you could use EL ecu to run everything youl just have to swap in an EL loom aswell


Are you sure the plugs are different? The XG used the EB ECU, and I've heard of a fair few people plugging and playing the EL ECU.

I know that EF computers have a higher pin count and are also coil pack based too.

The EL only really has a BBM, thermos, knock sensor and maybe a couple of other things over an EECIV computer. Other than those things the EECV ECUs are pretty much controlling the same engine, they would have some differences in fuel etc being as the engine did change a little bit.

ecu-fuel-system-eec-f21/el-ecu-in-eb-auto-problems-t74139.html
Once you get past the first EL ECU he had being defective you can see that the EL computer ran the engine fine, he did say that it wasn't controlling the auto properly, but the BTRs are all the same through the E series. Also BenJ commented further down the page and said that he chucked an EL ECU into his old EB and it ran everything just fine.

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el ecu in my nc2 fairlane worked great, basicly ed should work with a eb2 same box, has this only played up since the ecu changes ,maybe a pin prob at the conector or selector /inhibitor switch prob the only codes sholud be for the fans and the bbm , i put in the soliniod for the bbm under dash just to keep the ecu happy and had all the fan wiring etc from a el, no more codes


But there were some people who couldn't get things going properly..

 

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 Post subject: Re: My 94 Falcon XG Ute
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:50 pm 
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hmm, i think i'm either going to pass on the BBM for now or wait untill i have enough money (Also a while)
proberly just stick to smaller things

Anyway i have a question, who would you say would win a 1/4 mile between a XG with exhuast and a stock VT V6 commodore?
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 Post subject: Re: My 94 Falcon XG Ute
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:36 pm 
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Shmat wrote:
hmm, i think i'm either going to pass on the BBM for now or wait untill i have enough money (Also a while)
proberly just stick to smaller things

Anyway i have a question, who would you say would win a 1/4 mile between a XG with exhuast and a stock VT V6 commodore?


Commodore on take off, but you should start to reel the commo in....

 

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 Post subject: Re: My 94 Falcon XG Ute
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:20 pm 
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wow you got that pretty much rite

The VT ended up with a 1 meter head start but it was neck and neck till it (XG) shifted into 2nd, then we pulled away pretty quick, I tried putting it into 3rd wile doing 100ks to work out the diff ratio, apparently it has a 2.75 in it?, could anyone tell me what gains i would get from putting a 3.75 or 4.11 in there, just based on personal experience like fuel use, acceleration, top speed and such :P
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 Post subject: Re: My 94 Falcon XG Ute
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:24 pm 
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Shmat wrote:
wow you got that pretty much rite

The VT ended up with a 1 meter head start but it was neck and neck till it (XG) shifted into 2nd, then we pulled away pretty quick, I tried putting it into 3rd wile doing 100ks to work out the diff ratio, apparently it has a 2.75 in it?, could anyone tell me what gains i would get from putting a 3.75 or 4.11 in there, just based on personal experience like fuel use, acceleration, top speed and such :P


doubt it would be 2.75 with a btr :P have a look under the car for the tag on the diff.

with 4.11s in there you will get about 60 out of first.

 

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 Post subject: Re: My 94 Falcon XG Ute
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:29 pm 
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had a look the other day, no tag there, and is it correct that doing 100 in 3rd, and the revs show the ratio?
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 Post subject: Re: My 94 Falcon XG Ute
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:32 pm 
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had a look the other day, no tag there, and is it correct that doing 100 in 3rd, and the revs show the ratio?


im not to sure on that, shame about the tag mine doesnt have it either.

 

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 Post subject: Re: My 94 Falcon XG Ute
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:34 pm 
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yer anoying lol, it gets to 80 in first currently and revs till 6k sometimes, sounds beastly :P
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 Post subject: Re: My 94 Falcon XG Ute
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:40 pm 
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Shmat wrote:
yer anoying lol, it gets to 80 in first currently and revs till 6k sometimes, sounds beastly :P


yea i get 80 out of first at about 5k when mine hits the limiter.

6k :shock:

 

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 Post subject: Re: My 94 Falcon XG Ute
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:43 pm 
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yer 6k lol, i dont know were the limiter is, but the induction noise at 6k is amazing :P it overpowers the exhaust sometimes
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 Post subject: Re: My 94 Falcon XG Ute
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:46 pm 
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Shmat wrote:
yer 6k lol, i dont know were the limiter is, but the induction noise at 6k is amazing :P it overpowers the exhaust sometimes


you'll know when you hit the limiter :P maybe it doesnt have one? or the ecu has been chipped?

 

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 Post subject: Re: My 94 Falcon XG Ute
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:48 pm 
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i might just go plant my foot tomorrow and see if it hits it, i know its speed limited to 190 but i haven't heard it hit the limiter yet
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 Post subject: Re: My 94 Falcon XG Ute
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:50 pm 
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Shmat wrote:
i might just go plant my foot tomorrow and see if it hits it, i know its speed limited to 190 but i haven't heard it hit the limiter yet


Put it in neutral and put your foot to the floor, you will find the limiter. prob about 5800rpm

you will know when you hit it, cos it bounces on the limiter.

 

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