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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed xr6 build.
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:21 pm 
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i know this is my ed build but i thought ill put these pics here..

this is the new project.. ...naaaa.
its just a s**t eb2 ghia i picked up as a run around..
ive already started to steel a few bits and peices for my ed..
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so if anyone wants parts it will be wrecked out at the end of october when the rego expires... :)

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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed xr6 build.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:54 am 
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Got any rust, looks like a great starting point.
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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed xr6 build.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:13 pm 
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naa it has no rust but a fair bit of hail dammage.
not really worth much except for some spares and the rego it has..

ive named it the bird turd as its white and s**t.. although it does drives fantastic..
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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed build.
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:52 am 
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just thought ill post up my dyno sheet.
although the tune is still crapp. its still hunting at idle and is now pinging again:x .
so i think its time for a different tune

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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed build.
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:04 pm 
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your avg torque is the same as mine N/A..

 

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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed build.
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:33 pm 
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and ??..what was your peek?.
that torque reading is at max power/max rpm though, im more interested in the peak torque as this is what gets it moving not the torque at max revs.
but considering at other times during the 30 odd dyno runs it was up to 520 and did spike to 600. :?

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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed build.
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:17 pm 
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that torque reading is at avg over all! peak is only a second of top power and it's all back down again! so peak don't mean sh*t,cause it only last a second it's avg torque that you need to worry about as that is what is driving your car through the rev's. and my torque is pretty flat and consistent, no up's or down's
I wouldn't be worryed about peak torque ok or kw more how consistent you can get it through the range of the band..

 

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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed build.
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:51 am 
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i dont know how you work that out ??

if you look at the print out at the point of max kw the torque is only 409nm..which is the lowest amount of torque in the graph. you really got to look at the whole power and torque curb.
what i look at is the torque and kw from about 2500rpm to about 4000rpm which is 175kw about where peak torque of 470nm is, thats the usable torque that gets you the acceleration from gear to gear. there is no point looking at the torque at 5700 as ive already accelerated and then about to change gear.
anyway its still got s**t loads more go than before..
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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed build.
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:20 am 
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been meaning to ask you mr Troyman, how do you think the T5 will hold up?
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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed build.
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:46 am 
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been meaning to ask you mr Troyman, how do you think the T5 will hold up?

so far yes im fairly confident its up to the task..
considering the box is the original one from my old ea and has around 400,000km on it.
its really due for a freshen up, but ive done a few hard launches a couple of small sideway take off's even a second gear launch and the only thing that i have noticed is the rear shaft seal is weeping a little oil.
otherwise there are no signs of extra noise or signs of failure..
so i think as long as i keep the abuse reasonable i think the t5 will be fine.

although... i do have a spare t5 just incase!!
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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed build.
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:09 am 
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A spare T5? A blower? Able to go dyno tune?

Wish I was Troydude.

Thing is - Have been watching your trials and tribulations with the blower install very carefully and although initially impressed with apparent ease with which you installed the hardware, the fact that you've been having all these complications with getting it to run properly is scaring the hell out of me and my ambition to go down a similar route.

Guess things like this should be left to those who know what they're doing and have enough cash as a backstop for when things go a little pear shaped. Although I am saying this in a sober moment - once you get it all running properly and start posting videos of third gear power sliding I'll be reviewing the situation...

And hey, that sort of power is usable (as displayed in dyno sheet, above)... If it was a N.A. setup still you'd be bloody happy with it, so IS IT MORE FUN TO DRIVE? Or a pain in the a***?
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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed build.
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:26 pm 
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A spare T5? A blower? Able to go dyno tune?

Wish I was Troydude.

Thing is - Have been watching your trials and tribulations with the blower install very carefully and although initially impressed with apparent ease with which you installed the hardware, the fact that you've been having all these complications with getting it to run properly is scaring the hell out of me and my ambition to go down a similar route.

Guess things like this should be left to those who know what they're doing and have enough cash as a backstop for when things go a little pear shaped. Although I am saying this in a sober moment - once you get it all running properly and start posting videos of third gear power sliding I'll be reviewing the situation...

And hey, that sort of power is usable (as displayed in dyno sheet, above)... If it was a N.A. setup still you'd be bloody happy with it, so IS IT MORE FUN TO DRIVE? Or a pain in the a***?


well the whole situation has been difficult because of the hybrid mix. ed with el ecu wit au engine.
if it was an el with everything el i would have just used the j3 that would have come with s/c kit.
but things didnt work out as planned..
and the first issues were due to a piggyback ecu that was junk...
so dont let my issues scare you away from the boosted side of life.. :lol:
and even with all the hickups its still fun to drive. :D

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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed build.
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:47 pm 
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today i have undone all the wires from the ems that were linked to the factory ecu as it was semi piggyback so i totally removed the factory ecu and now the ems is totally stand alone ..
as it was there was a light surging at cruising rpm and light throttle.
now that the ems is in full control the surging has dissapeared. :D
im now also running the thermo fans off the ems aswell.. :)

so i now have a el ghia ecu up for sale..

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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed build.
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:20 pm 
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Hey Troy,

Should be able to do the ISC now, well maybe. Shame about the dodgy install. Could've saved some dough and done it yourself, no problems, end of story........

You gonna give Rigoli's a call and see what happens, i am curious as to the cost of them tweaking a tune.....Might be worth it??

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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed build.
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:44 pm 
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Hey Troy,

Should be able to do the ISC now, well maybe. Shame about the dodgy install. Could've saved some dough and done it yourself, no problems, end of story........

You gonna give Rigoli's a call and see what happens, i am curious as to the cost of them tweaking a tune.....Might be worth it??

Cheers mate

Daz

yea i spoke to vince rigoli and he said he will re tune it for $600..
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