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							Hi just quick question 
				Do I need to run a igniter with el 4.0 dizzy when it is not piggybacked through standard computer? Have tried all day to get spark and it will not. Have searched a bit and someone said it is possible but cannot find a diagram. Any help would be great 
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| TROYMAN | 
				
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							nope,no igniter necessary you can use the factory tfi module on the dizzy.. 
				when you hook it up, the pip signal from the tfi to ecu ( wire on pin 56 factory plug) goes to the no1 ignition input on ems, then the no 1 ignition output from ems goes to the spout wire (pin 36 on factory ecu plug}..  | 
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| mustang6 | 
				
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					 {USERNAME} wrote: nope,no igniter necessary you can use the factory tfi module on the dizzy.. when you hook it up, the pip signal from the tfi to ecu ( wire on pin 56 factory plug) goes to the no1 ignition input on ems, then the no 1 ignition output from ems goes to the spout wire (pin 36 on factory ecu plug}.. I'm not actually using the factory wiring/computer at all. Just trying to figure out if I can wire the ems to the dizzy and coil directly. 
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| mustang6 | 
				
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							The 4l has come out of my mustang and gone into a e32 735i BMW and do not want to transplant the falcon wiring and computers over.						
						
						
								
							 
				
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| TROYMAN | 
				
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							ok, well the factory ford tfi still needs 12v and a earth/ signal ground to work, then you can use it to ignite the coil. 
				otherwise you might be better off using a ems igniter and get the pip signal from the dizzy..  | 
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| mustang6 | 
				
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							Yeah I tried today wiring it a few different ways to get spark but no matter what I did it didn't work. 
				I had 12v, ground and I think the trigger sync hooked to pip on dizzy 
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