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i've only seen, with my own eyes, a couple of E-Series pull the 100+mph passes that 170ish+rwkw power should be achieving.
STOKEB was one, on an n/a pass, with slicks and c-series box from memory did 102mph? (this is a long time ago), another one 'RIPUR8' that used to get around that did a high 13 @ 101mph. Both of those cars have/had JMM parts (expensive and jim is a C***, but hey, they actually work...)
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tickford_6 wrote: I've spent hours and hour and hours with engine simulators fine tuning the mystical 200rwkw AKA 400hp at the fly engine. Based on a stock stroke and a 1mm over bore the lowest i could get the peak power was 7000rpm. couldnt by any chance throw a link to one of these programs? would be fun to have a go at one. I reckon a custom set of pistons (with supporting gear) around 98mm (4.5l) would be the go. If you cant send a link to one of these calc's, can you mess around with that number and see how it goes?
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tickford_6 wrote: DRHEMI wrote: Your talking about the Hoppers Heads Reco Head - pretty good value if it works FORD EA - EL FULL RECO HEAD NEW OVERSIZE EXHAUST VALVES NEW SPRINGS PORTED PERFORMANCE GROUND CAM (any wade cam) $ 1095.00 inc. GST Saw the add in Street Fords - Good Price for a claim of upto 175rwkw  Apparently 175rwkw was achieved in an EF Manual without a Modified ECU Just Extractors and Exhaust ACL Rebuild Bottom end though just to tighten it up......... Tested Car had a Wade Cam - dunno what profile www.hoppersheads.com.au I've just sent them an email asking about valve sizes and flow figures for the head in that package. I'f they can't/wont supply that info, i wouldn't be buying it still no reply |
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Brockyb8 wrote: To be honest everyone has different things that works and doesnt work . Ive seen 3 or 4 different combos get up to 175kw . Ive never seen more than 180kw for a na sohc on a dyno ive seen a dohc get 196rwkw. That was over in sa at a kpm dyno day I've seen 180.4rwkw, with more to come from this particular car, it has a baby cam. A bigger cam and a good tune and it will crack 190rwkw
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Goanna be a spoilsport here but we musn't forget that all dyno's are different when going for the glorious 190rwkw.
One may read 190 and another dyno may read 170. The proof is in the timeslip.
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Just tossing in a few questions....
Would it be fair to say that a big cam is going to make an NA engine unsuitable for city driving? If the engine develops most of its horsepower in the top end, is it going to be a slug at slow speed and use heaps fuel? Does the engine start to become more of race engine rather than a street engine?
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Vic wrote: Goanna be a spoilsport here but we musn't forget that all dyno's are different when going for the glorious 190rwkw. One may read 190 and another dyno may read 170. The proof is in the timeslip. factor in the rest of it  the car can be a 13 sec runner,but try to get it every time,every day 
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Vic wrote: Goanna be a spoilsport here but we musn't forget that all dyno's are different when going for the glorious 190rwkw. One may read 190 and another dyno may read 170. The proof is in the timeslip. factor in the rest of it the car can be a 13 sec runner,but try to get it every time,every day
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FAST-XR wrote: yes 190 is possible.. i hit 170 with my el xr (on a dyno dynamics dyno) CMS stage 3 cam with vernier gear CMS stage 2 head 3" intake pipe, filter, CAI Au injectors Extractors, cat, 2.5" exhaust 68mm throttle body std XR valves std ecu std bottom end with more head work, a decent ecu with custom tune and high comp bottom end, 190rwkw is more than achievable with the right gear... i di have a high compression bottom end.. a unichip alos at one stage.. and saw a best of 176rwkw.. and a PB timeslip of 14.1 @97MPH.. 1.97 sixty footer on 15 inch rims.. street tyre's.. |
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thats true. but we saw that when we took off the unichip it made the same power, so i think the tune wasnt all that great. and your bottom end was going though oil like an old holden...
increased bore capacity with high compression and a well tuned quality ecu, can get you there
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I would only be going 40thou over on the bores at the most though (if I wanted it to last and was ) considering the sidewall pressure at the revs required to get to that power (in this case the strength decrease of block>decrease of sidewall pressure).
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skidder wrote: I would only be going 40thou over on the bores at the most though (if I wanted it to last and was ) considering the sidewall pressure at the revs required to get to that power (in this case the strength decrease of block>decrease of sidewall pressure). whats 40thou in mm? 1mm? cms are testing a 4.5l setup which is abt 98mm bore on stock stroke. theres about 6mm increase there...
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racer wrote: The Haltech Platinum can be spliced into the genuine Ford EF-EL PCM. My co worker wired one last week into a EF TURBO at HITMAN'S workshop. Still using the idle control circuit. Waiting for power results. Made 370rwkw @ 12psi. Starts, idles & runs better than a standard one.
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Sorry i know it's off the topic but just to let you know a desent ecu will make a huge differance in power, torque & the complete running or the engine.
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racer wrote: racer wrote: The Haltech Platinum can be spliced into the genuine Ford EF-EL PCM. My co worker wired one last week into a EF TURBO at HITMAN'S workshop. Still using the idle control circuit. Waiting for power results. Made 370rwkw @ 12psi. Starts, idles & runs better than a standard one. 370rwkw on 12psi? what the hell is done to it? sure thats not 370rwhp??
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