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 Post subject: Brisbane Area Rebuild for EA 3.9 MPFI
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:37 pm 
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I have hit the wall on maintaining the old EA and while I've fixed just about every water leak, oil leak, etc etc on the old girl the run of maintenance never stops - now the welch plugs are leaking on the block and I've got a bad lifter or two.

So, either I pull the engine ancillaries off and do the welch plugs (what next?) or after 21 years and 300,000km do I just rebuild the engine and be done with it? I'd like to explore the latter and do some minor additions to the basics while not changing the fact this car is a good original example:

- bottom end balanced
- upgraded rods/pistons with slight comp ratio increase
- new cam (mild - i.e. without having to mod the ECU)
- match port intake manifold to head

Anyone suggest a reputable engine builder who can do this in Brisbane? Any other key suggestions for the engine?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Brisbane Area Rebuild for EA 3.9 MPFI
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:26 pm 
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Why not grab a 4.0L, fix that with some minor mods and wack that in? Adding an AU MLS head gasket will help it live a little longer too.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Brisbane Area Rebuild for EA 3.9 MPFI
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:11 pm 
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Yeah good idea but I want to keep it original including matching engine number. Nothing wrong with the 3.9.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Brisbane Area Rebuild for EA 3.9 MPFI
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:07 pm 
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My 3.9 goes hard (cam and chip + breathing mods) but still I love it.
And they are a better engine to boost aswell.
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 Post subject: Re: Brisbane Area Rebuild for EA 3.9 MPFI
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:22 pm 
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Take the 3.9 out, wrap it in plastic and put it away somewhere safe. Then fit an AU engine with the EA externals, and enjoy. Then reco the EA 3.9 later, if you decide it's worth the effort. It's cool to have the original engine, etc, but at the end of the day it's an EA, not an XY GT. I think you will be spending a lot of money to achieve very little if you do the 3.9.
But that's just my humble opinion mate. You do what pleases you.
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 Post subject: Re: Brisbane Area Rebuild for EA 3.9 MPFI
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:24 pm 
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Hi,

I would go to an EF or EL engine, and keep the old one. Cheap and easy compared to an AU. You could even replace seals and welch plugs before fitting, and do the AU head gasket. Less time off the road, and if you are a bit sneaky you could change the number then destroy the old one.

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 Post subject: Re: Brisbane Area Rebuild for EA 3.9 MPFI
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:28 pm 
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Matching numbers doesn't make an EA worth any more.

I have a good running AU engine with 137 000km on that i'll sell for $300 strapped to a pallet, All you need to do is organize Toll to pick it up.
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 Post subject: Re: Brisbane Area Rebuild for EA 3.9 MPFI
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:31 pm 
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Something about the 3.9 is just that bit more old school an fun to drive IMHO, welsh plugs can be done in car from underneath to btw.
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 Post subject: Re: Brisbane Area Rebuild for EA 3.9 MPFI
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:54 pm 
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Pakrat wrote:
Something about the 3.9 is just that bit more old school an fun to drive IMHO, welsh plugs can be done in car from underneath to btw.


how ? please tell me about how they are fun to drive as im a ashamed owner of one
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 Post subject: Re: Brisbane Area Rebuild for EA 3.9 MPFI
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:10 pm 
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EF_wanabe wrote:
Pakrat wrote:
Something about the 3.9 is just that bit more old school an fun to drive IMHO, welsh plugs can be done in car from underneath to btw.


how ? please tell me about how they are fun to drive as im a ashamed owner of one

drive it like you stole it :wink: :wink: :wink:

 

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 Post subject: Re: Brisbane Area Rebuild for EA 3.9 MPFI
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:27 pm 
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EF_wanabe wrote:
Pakrat wrote:
Something about the 3.9 is just that bit more old school an fun to drive IMHO, welsh plugs can be done in car from underneath to btw.


how ? please tell me about how they are fun to drive as im a ashamed owner of one


You sir should own a commodore, Shame on you.
Obviously I prefer a more classic feel to a falcon, sure I like a clean revving barra but the ef el au motors just don't do it for me, they don't sound tough, they don't get as lumpy as te 3.9s when cammed they dont feel as powerful, an they don't last as long. They just arnt as raw as the 3.9l
I like to have to wait for my car to warm up before she runs right.
Most of all i love beating rice and commos in the simple 3.9.
This is all my opinion, not fact, but I believe it to be true.
Long live the 3.9!
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 Post subject: Re: Brisbane Area Rebuild for EA 3.9 MPFI
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:38 pm 
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Pakrat wrote:
EF_wanabe wrote:
Pakrat wrote:
Something about the 3.9 is just that bit more old school an fun to drive IMHO, welsh plugs can be done in car from underneath to btw.


how ? please tell me about how they are fun to drive as im a ashamed owner of one


You sir should own a commodore, Shame on you.
Obviously I prefer a more classic feel to a falcon, sure I like a clean revving barra but the ef el au motors just don't do it for me, they don't sound tough, they don't get as lumpy as te 3.9s when cammed they dont feel as powerful, an they don't last as long. They just arnt as raw as the 3.9l
I like to have to wait for my car to warm up before she runs right.
Most of all i love beating rice and commos in the simple 3.9.
This is all my opinion, not fact, but I believe it to be true.
Long live the 3.9!
:D



ok no noooo commodore for me but i am gay maybe i like honda's

hmm once i get my new fuel pump i shall feel this power , expect only around the block :( i hope it can light up in the wet , 130 psi constant on all 6 cylinders in a dry test :)

enlighten me please ?
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 Post subject: Re: Brisbane Area Rebuild for EA 3.9 MPFI
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:12 am 
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Light up in the wet? I'd hope so.
Should light up anywhere. Mine does haha :/.
Nothing wrong with Hondas, I love old Hondas, my first car was a 1986 SI prelude, 5speed. Flood water killed her. Still search eBay weekly for another.
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 Post subject: Re: Brisbane Area Rebuild for EA 3.9 MPFI
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:27 pm 
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tickford_6 wrote:
Matching numbers doesn't make an EA worth any more.

Probably right except that on average once a fortnight someone approaches me and asks if I'll sell it. Lot to be said for originality and teh EA is still a good looking car in the poster car red manual s pack.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Brisbane Area Rebuild for EA 3.9 MPFI
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:03 am 
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hi all on the yopic of a rebuild Can you remove the sump in car to get the piston bearing caps off to re-ring a coon or is it an engine out job???

 

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