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What sort of Torque are you expecting from there 4.8 motors ?
And do you think you will be far into doing a B series motor in next 9-12 months ?
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GeZza200 wrote: what do you mean finally lol, theres people doing 13's in NA6's
LOL, 13's isn't quick, quick for a ford i6 yes, but not quick |
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what other NA6's do 13's that are 1600kg
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should chuck one in a ea wagon and go for a trip to WA and back plenty of different conditions and KMs
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Sprjenkins wrote: GeZza200 wrote: what do you mean finally lol, theres people doing 13's in NA6's LOL, 13's isn't quick, quick for a ford i6 yes, but not quick wtf??? 13 is a hell of alot quicker then the average bloke needs. f**k 60-80k v8's from factory struggle to dip into the 13's its very rare to see a na 6cyl running 13's. im pretty sure ford i6 is only motor yet, with respects to tvr's(but their supercars and 100k+)
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4dlvr wrote: Sprjenkins wrote: GeZza200 wrote: what do you mean finally lol, theres people doing 13's in NA6's LOL, 13's isn't quick, quick for a ford i6 yes, but not quick wtf??? 13 is a hell of alot quicker then the average bloke needs. f**k 60-80k v8's from factory struggle to dip into the 13's its very rare to see a na 6cyl running 13's. im pretty sure ford i6 is only motor yet, with respects to tvr's(but their supercars and 100k+) As I quite clearly stated its quick for a ford 6 but there's crap loads of street driven cars that run single figure quarter mile times, just pick up any street machine mag or look at Nelson racing in the US for a video of a 2000hp car being driven on the street, in traffic. 13's hasn't been quick for a modded street car since the 60's when you had 500hp cars straight from the factory. Also there's heaps of N/A I6 BMW's that run 13's, M3's did it straight from the factory. Plus there's heaps of Nissan engined N/A 6's running 13's or lower. I've got a DVD of a guy in Japan doing it with an L series engine for christ sakes. I'm sure there's heaps more like the 245 hemi that can run a lot lower than 13's but I really can't be bothered with the research right now. End of the day 13 seconds is not quick for a street car. |
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Sprjenkins wrote: 4dlvr wrote: Sprjenkins wrote: GeZza200 wrote: what do you mean finally lol, theres people doing 13's in NA6's LOL, 13's isn't quick, quick for a ford i6 yes, but not quick wtf??? 13 is a hell of alot quicker then the average bloke needs. f**k 60-80k v8's from factory struggle to dip into the 13's its very rare to see a na 6cyl running 13's. im pretty sure ford i6 is only motor yet, with respects to tvr's(but their supercars and 100k+) As I quite clearly stated its quick for a ford 6 but there's crap loads of street driven cars that run single figure quarter mile times, just pick up any street machine mag or look at Nelson racing in the US for a video of a 2000hp car being driven on the street, in traffic. 13's hasn't been quick for a modded street car since the 60's when you had 500hp cars straight from the factory. Also there's heaps of N/A I6 BMW's that run 13's, M3's did it straight from the factory. Plus there's heaps of Nissan engined N/A 6's running 13's or lower. I've got a DVD of a guy in Japan doing it with an L series engine for christ sakes. I'm sure there's heaps more like the 245 hemi that can run a lot lower than 13's but I really can't be bothered with the research right now. End of the day 13 seconds is not quick for a street car. 13 sec 1/4's are not easily come by, by a factory original, budget, everyday car, yes??? Take a look at the XY GTHO phase 3, a 14 sec car, that was twice the price of a bog budget 200ci 3sp man sedan. How about a bit later, an ELGT, what were they new ($$$$), verses an EL GLi in lowest spec form ($$$$$).???? An ELGT wasn't a 13 sec car. An E49 Charger as tested back in the day, wasn't a 13 sec car. Change the width of the tyres, put in some BP100 and hello 13 sec 1/4's. Comes back to how big your wallet is, eh?
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Sprjenkins wrote: 4dlvr wrote: Sprjenkins wrote: GeZza200 wrote: what do you mean finally lol, theres people doing 13's in NA6's LOL, 13's isn't quick, quick for a ford i6 yes, but not quick wtf??? 13 is a hell of alot quicker then the average bloke needs. f**k 60-80k v8's from factory struggle to dip into the 13's its very rare to see a na 6cyl running 13's. im pretty sure ford i6 is only motor yet, with respects to tvr's(but their supercars and 100k+) As I quite clearly stated its quick for a ford 6 but there's crap loads of street driven cars that run single figure quarter mile times, just pick up any street machine mag or look at Nelson racing in the US for a video of a 2000hp car being driven on the street, in traffic. 13's hasn't been quick for a modded street car since the 60's when you had 500hp cars straight from the factory. Also there's heaps of N/A I6 BMW's that run 13's, M3's did it straight from the factory. Plus there's heaps of Nissan engined N/A 6's running 13's or lower. I've got a DVD of a guy in Japan doing it with an L series engine for christ sakes. I'm sure there's heaps more like the 245 hemi that can run a lot lower than 13's but I really can't be bothered with the research right now. End of the day 13 seconds is not quick for a street car. Street Machine....... How many of the cars featured in that can say that they are 100% street Legal in all states. Not just Paying Rego and driving the car. CMS 4.8litre I6 package running on stock ECU into the 13's. that would be a great achievement. V8 e series need a fair amount of mods to get that quick. |
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I was making no comment on the achievement of CMS or factory vs modded or the size of your wallet. All i'm saying is that 13 seconds isn't quick.
Now about the size of your wallet, there was a green torana running racerpro heads in street machine a while back that was built for $6000 including the price of the car and that run a 9.9 second quarter. Theres also a Mitsubishi plumbers van that is street legal, $4000 worth of conversions running 10.83. I know its not everyone's taste but you don't have to have $50,000 to run quick and once again 13 seconds is not and never will be quick. Quick for a certain type of car maybe, but in the grand scheme of things not quick. |
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You sir are a wanker. Sorry but its true. 13s is quick for a car that wasn't just built for straight line speed. How many of those cheap quick cars can be filled up with at any bowser and drive around australia easily all whilst remaining EPA and RTA friendly?
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MooseMan wrote: You sir are a wanker. Sorry but its true. 13s is quick for a car that wasn't just built for straight line speed. How many of those cheap quick cars can be filled up with at any bowser and drive around australia easily all whilst remaining EPA and RTA friendly?
s**t, 13's was quick in the 60's for a car that could be filled up at any bowser and driven right the way round the country. |
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Sprjenkins wrote: I was making no comment on the achievement of CMS or factory vs modded or the size of your wallet. All i'm saying is that 13 seconds isn't quick.
Now about the size of your wallet, there was a green torana running racerpro heads in street machine a while back that was built for $6000 including the price of the car and that run a 9.9 second quarter. Theres also a Mitsubishi plumbers van that is street legal, $4000 worth of conversions running 10.83. I know its not everyone's taste but you don't have to have $50,000 to run quick and once again 13 seconds is not and never will be quick. Quick for a certain type of car maybe, but in the grand scheme of things not quick. im not a I6 person but as it was stated the 4.8 using the stock off the shelf factory ECU in the 13s is a big achievement, CMS has been busy developing this engine and joe knows his stuff. Joe develops HP in a way no one has even come close to doing using a stock ECU, what i have seen and heard joe likes to do using stock ECUs when people say you it cant be done. Remember the fords these motors go into arnt as light as a van or smaller car like a torana
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I was making no comment on the achievement of CMS, once again 13 seconds is not and never will be quick. Quick for a certain type of car maybe, but in the grand scheme of things not quick.
Yeah I agree, 13 seconds out of a falcon with a standard ecu is a great achievment, especially if Joe isn't running low diff gears etc. Not many people are into the 13's in a falcon n/a but at the end of the day it is still fairly slow compared to what else is out there |
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Will 12.99 make you happy?
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