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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:20 am 
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Has anybody thought about building one of these? - would be interesting to know some first hand results.

http://waterpoweredcar.com/hydrobooster2.html

 

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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:18 am 
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I'm too afraid the oil companies will send a hitman to my house if I use that.

 

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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:59 pm 
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Has anybody thought about building one of these? - would be interesting to know some first hand results.

http://waterpoweredcar.com/hydrobooster2.html

There is always inefficiency in converting one form of energy to another. The energy expended by the vehicle's electrical system is greater than the hydrogen energy derived.

 

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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:08 am 
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There is always inefficiency in converting one form of energy to another. The energy expended by the vehicle's electrical system is greater than the hydrogen energy derived



if u read the info they are not using bulk electricity to do the conversion (as in straight water would require) - they are using an electrolyte solution to minimise the amps.

My question was - has anyone got 1st hand experience with something like this?

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:57 am 
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There is always inefficiency in converting one form of energy to another. The energy expended by the vehicle's electrical system is greater than the hydrogen energy derived



if u read the info they are not using bulk electricity to do the conversion (as in straight water would require) - they are using an electrolyte solution to minimise the amps.

My question was - has anyone got 1st hand experience with something like this?

Are you saying they create "electrolyte solution" at home and regularly put it into the car? If so i didn't notice them saying so on the website.

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:45 am 
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It kind of sounds like they run the fuel through the device then into the engine. The device releases hydrogen from the petrol to help lower fuel consumption? I need to read into it more.

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:07 pm 
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I was wrong, It seems that you add hyrogen and oxygen from the electrolyser into the intake and the ecu leans out the injectors. The question is of course. with you burn out the pistons due to too low a fuel mixture? Or does it give you enough feul with the addition of the gas?

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:13 pm 
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It's worth a try if someone wants to donate a boxcar for the project....LOL

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:47 pm 
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You need the adjustable LED circuit to adjust the mixture, this also displays the mixture on the LED readout. Interesting! If i saw the results in person and they were good, i would buy one, but until then... :'(

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:18 pm 
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seems like this one is using 1- 3% KOH (potassium hydroxide) as the electrolyte but only for initial fill after that u just add water every time until it has to be cleaned out.

other setups use baking soda - 1 tsp per litre, some use caustic soda.

anyone know what KOH is sold as in australia?

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:54 pm 
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Did anyone watch the videos on the guy who made his car run enirely on water, off a cell taking 1 amp?

My grandpa told me since i was 12 about him, how he was killed and his plans destroyed..
Same about the guy who invented a way to wirelessly transport electricity
*pop* *burn* problem solved, damn governments, how long do they honestly believe oil companies can last, they will destroy our earth and for what, they own like 80% of other free energy patents, plus they are so rich they could diverisfy immensely!
Our economy would change drastically, but so much for the better in every single way imaginable!

 

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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:13 pm 
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Shell and BP both now make solar panels.... you think they are getting the idea that they need to diversify their business away from fossil fuels. Mobil is in trouble and has moved to Bangkok to try and save costs.... (hide)

 

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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:02 am 
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Since no one seems to have any first hand knowledge of this, i threw something together to do some tests. Have virtually copied the one from the "water4gas" site.
It is basically a nescafe jar with electrodes mounted through the lid. Electrodes are just stainless welding wire, doubled over and wound around a plastic core.
Used baking soda for electrolyte cos that's what i had handy.

Have installed it in my hilux ute for testing (it's carburettored)

Does produce gas.

Just have to do some miles now to get some real results.

 

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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:36 pm 
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that's great Garth I will look forward to your results.

 

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Did anyone watch the videos on the guy who made his car run enirely on water, off a cell taking 1 amp?

My grandpa told me since i was 12 about him, how he was killed and his plans destroyed..
Same about the guy who invented a way to wirelessly transport electricity
*pop* *burn* problem solved, damn governments, how long do they honestly believe oil companies can last, they will destroy our earth and for what, they own like 80% of other free energy patents, plus they are so rich they could diverisfy immensely!
Our economy would change drastically, but so much for the better in every single way imaginable!
need the cash to pay fwits in act,super-------need a jumbo wheel barrow.

 

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