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I tell you what, when I see a stock 33 GTS-T pull a 14.3 on Australian petrol, I'll shout you a beer.
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Yeah they should always be on premo fuel 98 min. On normal stuff it will ping and lose power and slow a bit. Glad you like 1/4 mile its the best way to go and longer fun. Hope you have done upgrades on your brakes my fords brakes are shot after a couple of hard stops.
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Steady ED wrote: I tell you what, when I see a stock 33 GTS-T pull a 14.3 on Australian petrol, I'll shout you a beer.
yeh exactly right, i'll just keep filling up my family sedan with regular unleaded. and those skylines were turbo that i raced, nice silver front mounts or turbo noise are giveaways. i may be up at willowbank this weekend, i'll keep an eye out for any skylines that race.
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My EL (151RWKW - rather heavily modded) would have no trouble with most R33 GTS-T's. Had a mate with a modded run, was running 14psi, it was close but he couldn't pass me.
And now with the GT, 5sec flat 0-100, 13sec flat 1/4 on street tyres, something grippier would drop that a bit, fair bit of wheelspin off the line, and between gears. Skylines, are the be all and end all of performance cars. GT-R's however.
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Very true data mine. Id love a GTR. GTS-T `s are just half betweens better than no turbo but no where near GTR speed{unless modded.}That sounds like it would of been fun would of liked to of seen it. Of course a heavily modded ford will be fast but a lot of guys here seem to think that a near stock 5spd one will beat one. What have you done to your car to give it that sort of power at the wheels? what times have you ran? How does it compare to the GTP?
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with 151rwkw no wonder you dont have a problem with skylines.
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ghia97 wrote: Very true data mine. Id love a GTR. GTS-T `s are just half betweens better than no turbo but no where near GTR speed{unless modded.}That sounds like it would of been fun would of liked to of seen it. Of course a heavily modded ford will be fast but a lot of guys here seem to think that a near stock 5spd one will beat one. What have you done to your car to give it that sort of power at the wheels? what times have you ran? How does it compare to the GTP?
EL was a monster. Sold long time ago now. But at it's prime, it had - SS inductions intake - 3" mandrel bent intake - custom made, really short run. - custom cam (grumpy bugger) - hybrid head - 1100rpm idle, 6250rpm limiter - multi spark capacitive discharge ignition - ECU mods (search around on FM, I did them myself, some posts on them) - Pacemakers - 2.5" redback system - 3000rpm stall - electronic shift kit - 3.45 LSD - Full whiteline handling kit thirsty bugger (19L/100 around town), but quick. 
How does it compare to the GT - it doesn't. The GT was faster out of the box (I'd damn well hope so), better interior, handling needed a little change (upgraded front sway bar), and that sound. V8 burble.
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data_mine wrote: ghia97 wrote: Very true data mine. Id love a GTR. GTS-T `s are just half betweens better than no turbo but no where near GTR speed{unless modded.}That sounds like it would of been fun would of liked to of seen it. Of course a heavily modded ford will be fast but a lot of guys here seem to think that a near stock 5spd one will beat one. What have you done to your car to give it that sort of power at the wheels? what times have you ran? How does it compare to the GTP? EL was a monster. Sold long time ago now. But at it's prime, it had - SS inductions intake - 3" mandrel bent intake - custom made, really short run. - custom cam (grumpy bugger) - hybrid head - 1100rpm idle, 6250rpm limiter - multi spark capacitive discharge ignition - ECU mods (search around on FM, I did them myself, some posts on them) - Pacemakers - 2.5" redback system - 3000rpm stall - electronic shift kit - 3.45 LSD - Full whiteline handling kit thirsty bugger (19L/100 around town), but quick. How does it compare to the GT - it doesn't. The GT was faster out of the box (I'd damn well hope so), better interior, handling needed a little change (upgraded front sway bar), and that sound. V8 burble. how did you up the rev limiter without an aftermarket ecu?
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All the parts to make your own J3 chips (ala chiptorque et. al.) can be sourced from the US. Only thing you can't get is any support (unless you have a Mustang). I had to reverse engineer the ECU myself.
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data_mine wrote: All the parts to make your own J3 chips (ala chiptorque et. al.) can be sourced from the US. Only thing you can't get is any support (unless you have a Mustang). I had to reverse engineer the ECU myself.
when i end up putting a cam in my beast, i would really like to up the limiter, while retaining the factory ecu. i'm not a piggyback chip fan.
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There's only two options.
- aftermarker ecu - piggyback/chip The factory ECU's simply aren't tuneable.
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datamine if ur mate was running 14psi on a 33 gtst your ef and ur ba gt would have no f**k chance. Obviously he can't drive for shti if he coudlnt pass you.
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That's certainly an option, but either way he wasn't letting me win.
(and it's an EL and a BF)
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smoke_ wrote: when i end up putting a cam in my beast, i would really like to up the limiter, while retaining the factory ecu. i'm not a piggyback chip fan.
theres no point in 'upping' the rev limiter unless you get a big cam that makes the power up high, and most 'big' cams for the e-series need ecu mods or they will run like s**t. Wade 1521a is an example, power finishes up way past the rev limiter but wont run very well without ecu mods. |
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Well Said EED250 33 with 14psi will have a lot more go than 151kw EL at the wheels as stockys have between 140-145rwkw standard better geared and lighter than the ford even if the 33 is in sedan form. Thanks for the info datamine your EL defantly a monster. What did all the mods cost you all up? Why did you sell the EL.? I would like to get 151KW at the wheels in my Tickford Ghia and so far ive done extractors, exhaust, intake, standard lsd, timing and i havnt dynoed it but it would have 120 Maybe at the wheels. Whats the average stock figure? What single mod gave you the biggest power boost? I would love to go for a drive in the GT-P sounds Awesome.
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