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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:43 pm 
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do ef/el have bands?
i thought they wer solenoid operated, correct me if im wrong

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 12:38 am 
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mmmm i wonder what the hell is the go , its really interesting to find out why it does this.

are there any gearbox experts in these forums?

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 10:10 am 
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I'm pretty sure they have self adjusting solenoids. Have a yarn to the shop that reco'd it. This would s**t me as I like the odd drive up and down Macquarie and Jamberoo Pass.
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 11:04 am 
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 12:33 pm 
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So there is no OBVIOUS Explanation?

And if so , where could the problem start and finish , between which 2 parts

the torque converter and diff ?

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 3:00 pm 
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oops my bad, dunno why the hell that posted there, prob was too tired to pay attention :P LOL

then again, 50% of people do that lol (post randomly)
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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 1:53 pm 
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yes this was ment to do this there is a away to get around it there was a doco on here before it crashed,

 

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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:54 pm 
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smoke_rubber wrote:
do ef/el have bands?
i thought they wer solenoid operated, correct me if im wrong





solenoid or not they still HAVE to have bands in them. the bands are still aplied by an hydraulic servo, the solenoids control the fluid flow to and from the servos and clutches

this can not be caused by worn bands or clutches as the there would also be problems on acceleration.
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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:55 pm 
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cheers mate, i just wasn't sure.

 

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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 1:50 am 
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So its the gearbox???

the bands are sliping? howcome everything about my gearbox seems normal only that i cant down gear?

 

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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 1:17 pm 
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ThinkTank wrote:
So its the gearbox???

the bands are sliping? howcome everything about my gearbox seems normal only that i cant down gear?




no it's not your gear box and the bands are not slipping.

it might be an electrical fault in the box or it might just be the way ford programed it.(though i'm not sure about the programming bit as all the times ive driven them i havn't realy taken much notic of it.
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:07 pm 
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As Tickford 6 said its definately not your bands. Ive got a feeling that it is one of 2 things. 1) converter slip due to design or 2) lock up converter disengaging for whatever reason, maybe because as previosly mentioned it may be a computer controlled thing that may be to save fuel. My EF doesnt seem to suffer this prob cause if I stick it back in 2nd coming down bells line of road it stays there till I shift it. It pulls up on the compression braking untill it falls to around 2500rpm then the converter slips and has no effect under that.

 

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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:29 pm 
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Why would anyone out there seek out a torque converter like mine?

Thanks for the ideas , i dont personaly belive its my gearbox, i would more so blame my converter for this. but IVE NEVER heard of a torque converter doing this . Theres a first time for everything.

In reverse the gear will hold , its just in the drive gears it does not. MOFO is pissing me of.

What steps should i take to figure out what really is the problem? go to a gearbox mechanic and make sure nothing is wrong with the box, or should i just go change the torque converter?

 

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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:38 pm 
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Speak to someone like 9PSI EB off Mechanical Forums who has built the shift kits for a lot of FM members. He or some one he knows should be able to point you in the direction of being able to control the lockup option of the converter. This mod should only cost you about $15 in components from Jaycar and around an hour of your time. Having the ability to manually lock the converter is going to solve your problem for sure, and as a side effect should give you better fuel economy as well. It may not fix your problem but the auto box was never designed with compression braking in mind. If you go to transmission places all they will do is tell you that the problem is in your head or they will rip you off large sums of money because they feel that your gullable. The sad truth :roll:
BTW a new converter will probably set you back around $500-600. No comparison to a $10 fix

 

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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:39 pm 
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ThinkTank wrote:
So there is no OBVIOUS Explanation?

And if so , where could the problem start and finish , between which 2 parts

the torque converter and diff ?


Well I dont think it would be the engine, and it wouldnt be anything rearwards of te tailshaft, so its obviously gearbox or torque converter.

 

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