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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- f**k Angry!
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:01 pm 
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I have tried ringing a few times myself, but got onto the idea too late. Sounds worse than the prick who sold me mine as he is only in Hamilton and only lied a little bit...! Still --- Cost me $500 for a box that wouldn't work, but with another few hundred and weeks of stress thrown at it at least it moves my car forwards (and occasionally backwards). Sounds like that NZEA got the best deal out of all of us by miles. And then he bloody swaps it for a Soobie. I don't know how many times I said I'd take that gearbox and swap it all with mine with some cash his way. What a bum this Aussie d**k Eric sounds.

I'm not going to stop ringing and emailing till I get a response from the f**k... How much is a plane ticket these days mate? I'm not allowed to leave the country as you know I am currently on bail for a few assault with weapon charges and other common misdemeanors, but the jury trail should be early next year... I wonder if Eric the Aussie f**k is scared of grumpy six and half foot, 120kg Islanders? He f**k should be... And, by the way, they'd go talk to the guy for less than the amount of money he owes you. Admittedly, they may not give you all the money, but at least you have the satisfaction of knowing he doesn't have the money any more either. And more than likely be missing a tooth or three if he bothers protesting.

Stuffit man. I was just about to upload a sound file of what the bloody Futurlane is doing now and thought I'd check if you'd got yours up yet... Crissakes. $2000 for that? And the billet flywheel never showed up? EVL098 mate - Since I just broke up with the missus and all that, I could be in the market for a garden shed in Aussie to sleep in whilst I enjoy reaping cash from the Aussie slack a** building trade. Introduce the idea slowly to the missus for me would ya?
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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- f**k Angry!
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:59 am 
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Yeah, it's certainly been launched in 2nd - although looks like all other gears look okay, including the countergear - luckily the gearcase has a magnet in the base - those fragments getting caught between moving parts could've caused much more damage - if he'd driven the gearbox, he'd have known - big bang, then no power in 2nd.

A good thing out of this Mason is you'll know T5's internally pretty well once you're done - you should go through this box thoroughly, so you know you've done it right. As far as specialist tools go, you will need circlip pliers (a couple), a bearing puller (you need to pull the rear countergear bearing first to get the countergear out), and a DTI to measure input/mainshaft preload. You'll probably be able to borrow some of this gear.
Do get a strong fluoro light and inspect all gears (teeth especially)for damage, nicks, etc - slight damage can be touched up - otherwise, the gears will whine, and no gear oil will stop that.

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Might pay to slip a little review on this site here as well telling the truth and outlining the facts.
http://narellanonline.net/review_add.ph ... ng_id=1145
Also on this site
http://www.startlocal.com.au/auto/mecha ... 16606.html
Throw enough mud and some of it is sure to stick..........................................................
Ill see how I go in the next few days , if I get time I might just go for a drive over there and see what I can find out about the actual owners. It appears that the business changed hands in 2007 and they were working hard to change the bad publicity the place had................
Yeah, I know that area pretty well - particularly as MacArthur Parts Plus is just over the bush at Smeaton Grange.
I'm in Sydney in a fortnight - maybe a small convoy of us should call in on the Friday and voice our displeasure of a fellow forum member getting ripped - obviously no threats or violence intended, just to let them know it's been noted. I'd say people actually showing up would make for a good wake up call.

 

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- f**k Angry!
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:29 am 
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wish this was in my neck of the woods, Id drop by personally.

bastards like this give our country a bad name.

 

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- f**k Angry!
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:59 am 
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Yeah, it's certainly been launched in 2nd - although looks like all other gears look okay, including the countergear - luckily the gearcase has a magnet in the base - those fragments getting caught between moving parts could've caused much more damage - if he'd driven the gearbox, he'd have known - big bang, then no power in 2nd.

A good thing out of this Mason is you'll know T5's internally pretty well once you're done - you should go through this box thoroughly, so you know you've done it right. As far as specialist tools go, you will need circlip pliers (a couple), a bearing puller (you need to pull the rear countergear bearing first to get the countergear out), and a DTI to measure input/mainshaft preload. You'll probably be able to borrow some of this gear.
Do get a strong fluoro light and inspect all gears (teeth especially)for damage, nicks, etc - slight damage can be touched up - otherwise, the gears will whine, and no gear oil will stop that.

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Might pay to slip a little review on this site here as well telling the truth and outlining the facts.
http://narellanonline.net/review_add.ph ... ng_id=1145
Also on this site
http://www.startlocal.com.au/auto/mecha ... 16606.html
Throw enough mud and some of it is sure to stick..........................................................
Ill see how I go in the next few days , if I get time I might just go for a drive over there and see what I can find out about the actual owners. It appears that the business changed hands in 2007 and they were working hard to change the bad publicity the place had................
Yeah, I know that area pretty well - particularly as MacArthur Parts Plus is just over the bush at Smeaton Grange.
I'm in Sydney in a fortnight - maybe a small convoy of us should call in on the Friday and voice our displeasure of a fellow forum member getting ripped - obviously no threats or violence intended, just to let them know it's been noted. I'd say people actually showing up would make for a good wake up call.


Certainly looks "launched" doesn't it :lol:

You are right, I'm prob' very lucky it is only those gears damaged, i also noticed a nick on the input shaft gear which I'm guessing is fourth gear?? Mal Wood are pricing some parts up for me at the moment, on eBay USA i can get the Z parts, lower cluster,2nd gear and input shaft for about $US380 plus freight. But i will need to buy a rebuild kit too i suppose so that's an extra $US200.

I was considering just sending it to a place for a rebuild but i haven't quite decided yet, will see what they quote. I did buy a full E-book by TTC, covering all Tremec/BW T5's, it's a professional PDF manual covering the inspection,tear down and rebuild. If anyone wants a copy, PM me your email address, its 4mb big by the way.



Snap, Dad's a mechanic so hopefully he will have those tools, if not he knows a few people that may do. But as he said him self, gear boxes aren't his speciality.

Do you happen to know what ratios these T5Z's are? As i don't want to order the wrong parts. I have been emailing a very helpful guy off eBay who stocks all the parts i need, he just wants to make sure it's the right ratios etc.


I think this just all falls down to a buyer beware case. Really i should have had the box checked out before purchase, but without taking the whole thing apart i suppose that wouldn't have been possible anyway. So much for an "inspection cover", have to take the tail end off just to take the cover off, and by that time the whole thing is basically apart so it's not really an inspection cover :lol:

 

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- f**k Angry!
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:27 pm 
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***Well, i had a PM from Eric this morning attempting to rectify the situation, he has offered compensation which is good. Claims that it was an employee using his details, but he will pay me out. Which is fine, as long as i get my re build money or at least something to off set the costs.

Long story, which i feel should only be shared in PM.

I told him i would rectify my complaints and email to head office once done. Which i will.

I just want my car to move!

 

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- f**k Angry!
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:18 pm 
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people power, thats a good win, now if only they follow through, dont let it go.

keep at them till you get what you paid for. including a flywheel.

 

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- f**k Angry!
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:57 pm 
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Yeah, i looked at the email i got back from Head office, looks like it passed hands once or twice, so at least a couple of higher up paper pushers have seen it. He mentioned getting a call on Friday which is what made him realize, cause apparently his employee was not mentioning my emails coming into the works email box or something. It sounds genuine, but it could be the most genuine story in the land, but if it doesn't get me paid, it means nothing. So yeah i will keep applying pressure until i get paid. He said he will either pay out his own pocket or get the employee to and if he doesn't sack him and he will cover it. Sounding good so far, time will tell!!

 

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- f**k Angry!
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:51 pm 
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Fingers crossed mate.
If it helps in anyway Im happy to pick up a cheque from him personally and then deposit it and send it on to you.
Glad things may be slightly working out.
If I can do anything to assist in any way let me know.
Shoot me a PM with the story when you get a chance.

 

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- f**k Angry!
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:15 pm 
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people power, thats a good win, now if only they follow through, dont let it go.

keep at them till you get what you paid for. including a flywheel.


And freight! Dont pay a damn thing extra in freight no matter what happens!

Good to hear you may have some redress coming XFWAGON. I will certainly be joining the que getting in touch with Narellan Ultratune and their head office for a tongue bashing should this offer of compensation not be to your complete satisfaction.

 

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- f**k Angry!
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:45 pm 
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Mate --- Get the flywheel and sell me your current one would you please? Heheh - I need one...

As for the rest of it - Get the rebuild kit with some new gears and do it yourself. It surprised me that with the right advice and manuals, I could even do it (although with my usual amount of drama and stress... One day I will stop being such a novice... But hey, everything has to be done for the first time once... I'm sure it gets easier the more you've done it!)...

Anyway - My T5 parts came from Mal Wood and the website mentioned pretty quick. The U S of A guy was quicker, but we all know about Aussie Post already, sigh.

Don't believe a word of "ERIC" letting other people use his works email for transactions like this and all that. He's a tosser who obviously thought he could get away with something, and didn't.

What does his company actually do by the way?..... Comon, they should know better. Maybe they took out a crap box and a good box and ended up taking your money and giving you the s**t. Like where's the billet flywheel... And what are the catch codes off the "EL GT ECU" he gave you?

Arg, what the hell. Glad you made contact with the cheeky s**t. I'll put the big Samoan mate back in his cage for a while then... No threats intended SNAP.... But when people lie and piss you about, sometimes the only way to sort it out is a nice little chat. Given the nature of the avoidance, it would seem appropriate to send a proxy capable of well and truly dealing with said avoidance. Debt collectors of the large Samoan persuasion would do better in this instance than some spotty lawyer with a bloody briefcase and a 10 month wait for a legal hearing...

Easy peasy. Not my fault if he denies ripping off my Southern Brother and looses a tooth or three, or gets grief from his bosses as there's a string of people coming through the workplace looking for him...

Stuffit. I've had enough with d***head like that. Some of us ain't rich, and every few hundred dollars hurts. This Eric character deserves a clip around the ears just for claiming he had nothing to do with sending a box to NZ. He bloody did have something to do with it, and will have to front up.
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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- f**k Angry!
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:24 pm 
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^^^^ Yeah I agree with everything you've said Mate, but you can never be sure if he's BS'ing or not. There is a chance he is actually being legit.

XF That's very good to see you are making progress.

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i also noticed a nick on the input shaft gear which I'm guessing is fourth gear??
Nah, there is no physical 4th gear - the input and mainshaft lock to give you 1:1. The input shaft transfers power through the countergear back to the mainshaft to give you all other forward gears. That nick if bad enough will give you noise in those gears except 4th probably.
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Mal Wood are pricing some parts up for me at the moment, on eBay USA i can get the Z parts, lower cluster,2nd gear and input shaft for about $US380 plus freight. But i will need to buy a rebuild kit too i suppose so that's an extra $US200.
I'd add the rebuild kit as mandatory, what prices do the gearbox.org quote ???
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I was considering just sending it to a place for a rebuild but i haven't quite decided yet.Snap, Dad's a mechanic so hopefully he will have those tools, if not he knows a few people that may do. But as he said him self, gear boxes aren't his speciality.
I'd say the labour will be a killer. Gearboxes aren't my specialty either.
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Do you happen to know what ratios these T5Z's are? As i don't want to order the wrong parts. I have been emailing a very helpful guy off eBay who stocks all the parts i need, he just wants to make sure it's the right ratios etc.
Nah, I don't mate. You will need to count gearteeth and let the guy know.
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So much for an "inspection cover", have to take the tail end off just to take the cover off, and by that time the whole thing is basically apart so it's not really an inspection cover :lol:
Yeah, hearin' ya on that one.

 

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- f**k Angry!
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:50 am 
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Glad to hear resolve is on track man, definitely get the fly wheel while your at it.

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:50 pm 
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Fingers crossed mate.
If it helps in anyway Im happy to pick up a cheque from him personally and then deposit it and send it on to you.
Glad things may be slightly working out.
If I can do anything to assist in any way let me know.
Shoot me a PM with the story when you get a chance.


Cheers mate, that would be great. I'll see what he does first, i haven't heard from him since Sat, so i will have to get up him again.

Snap
I'll check out the Gearbox.org prices, but i have found some very reasonably priced Tremec stuff on eBay. Hows this for a joke, got a price from a place today, cluster, 2nd gear and bearing job: 2550 plus GST.

Fiend
yeah, i don't think i'm ever gonna see that flywheel, i'll be lucky to see the money.

I don't know about Erics story, sounds dodgy but it could be true, i guess i will never really know, and i don't really care as long as i get my money!! But yes, you are right. His company are an Auto tuning and repair service. Aussie wide, locally run franchised type thing.

LOL yeah mate, put old Solly back in his cage, he won't be needed, while your at it, put the rest back in too. I hear ya too, ya get sick of people constantly cheating and ripping off the system/people/yourself. The world today is just s**t, Can usually trust Aussies pretty well, this must just have been a bad case.

Crane thanks mate, i'm bloody stoked with the amount of support i have got from you folks here on the forums, brings a smile to my face. Especially when Eric said he received a phone call on Friday (EVL098 lol)

Benz I think i'll be lucky to get the money let along the flywheel plus freight. May as well kiss that one good bye. LTDXTC is gonna be on Rego hold for a while yet i think! :cry:

 

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- f**k Angry!
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:58 pm 
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Oh mate, chin up, get on his a** again!

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:45 pm 
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Had a reply today, he has sacked the employee and will give me 600, then another 400 out of his own pocket asap. So that's a start i suppose.

 

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