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 Post subject: Could you please Delete all fixed :)
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:51 am 
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Hi guys
ok i have checked the globe and that seems fine...i have noticed that the rear parcel shelf brake light is blown would that cause the left break light also not to work ?
i have a EF GLi

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 Post subject: Re: Left Rear Brake light wont work
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:37 am 
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The globe holder could be broken and not be getting a good enough earth to support the positive side of the globe.

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A fuse is blown

 

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 Post subject: Re: Left Rear Brake light wont work
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:36 am 
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REW93N wrote:
The globe holder could be broken and not be getting a good enough earth to support the positive side of the globe.

Or

A fuse is blown


Yeah I have checked all that, Looks like i have a bit more to do before my road worthy -_-
the airbag is flashing code 12 at me. and it seems my cruse control will not turn off when i put my foot on the brake. lol well i cant complain for $500..umm well i can but no one will listen lol

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 Post subject: Re: Left Rear Brake light wont work
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:36 am 
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REW93N wrote:
The globe holder could be broken and not be getting a good enough earth to support the positive side of the globe.

Or

A fuse is blown


If a fuse is blown, no brake lights should work.

I say broken holder...have a look at the wiring and see if a wire has come loose or anything.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Left Rear Brake light wont work
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:59 am 
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phongus wrote:
REW93N wrote:
The globe holder could be broken and not be getting a good enough earth to support the positive side of the globe.

I say broken holder...have a look at the wiring and see if a wire has come loose or anything.


yeah i had it out to have a look ....whos bright idea was it to have to take the whole lot out of the car just to change the bl##dy globes..at any rate i am going to change all the globe and then chase it down...i could have had a bad spare one...but the filaments looks good and the multimeter seems to think everything's ok plug wise but then again i cant drive them there multimeter's to well lol
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:15 am 
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Is the BRAKE LT fuse blown ???
The symptoms seem to point to that.

 

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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:17 am 
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snap0964 wrote:
Is the BRAKE LT fuse blown ???
The symptoms seem to point to that.


Ummm looks ok i pulled it out and it looked fine

i just poped out and tested the fuse with the multimeter and its ok
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:52 pm 
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Try replacing the brake light switch, they are horrible in the Falcons.
About $10 from the local parts place.

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:50 pm 
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The parcel shelf and left side could be running from the same loom, or attached to the same loom.

If one goes out, the other might as well.

Easiest bet, just buy a new $4 pack of brake lights (you have to anyway) and install


Yeah thats what i was thinking mate....will get right on it after Easter and will let you know...i have to get a new numberplate light also so that might be a part of it to ( maybe) .i know one thing its pissing me off i hate leaving the taillight out of the car...looks grubby

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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:58 pm 
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If cruise wont cancel on an EF/EL it is a dodgy brake light switch... You can verify this by tramping the brake instead of gently pressing it... This causes the back up to operate on the master cylinder... I somehow bet this may be causing brake light issues also...

Have you used your multimeter to actually see if there is voltage at the bulb holder? And alternatively an earth?

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Also they're not Christmas lights, so one blown bulb wont make the other go out... They're all 12 volt bulbs wired in parallel... Not 6 or 4 volt bulbs wired in series... Only way one would work without the other is if the wiring is broken between them... Again the multimeter test will prove this... See if you have voltage to the globe holder...

 

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TimmyA wrote:
If cruise wont cancel on an EF/EL it is a dodgy brake light switch... You can verify this by tramping the brake instead of gently pressing it... This causes the back up to operate on the master cylinder... I somehow bet this may be causing brake light issues also...

Have you used your multimeter to actually see if there is voltage at the bulb holder? And alternatively an earth?

Cheers,
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yeah Tim the earth is good and there's power getting to the globe holder.
REW thinks replacing the peddle switch might help also so i might as well do that ( my XE was much easier to figger out lol but after having that for 22 years it was time to up grade i get attched to cars for some reason )
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Lucion wrote:
TimmyA wrote:
If cruise wont cancel on an EF/EL it is a dodgy brake light switch... You can verify this by tramping the brake instead of gently pressing it... This causes the back up to operate on the master cylinder... I somehow bet this may be causing brake light issues also...

Have you used your multimeter to actually see if there is voltage at the bulb holder? And alternatively an earth?

Cheers,
Tim


yeah Tim the earth is good and there's power getting to the globe holder.
REW thinks replacing the peddle switch might help also so i might as well do that ( my XE was much easier to figger out lol but after having that for 22 years it was time to up grade i get attched to cars for some reason )

I only think so due to the cruise control, happened to me a little while back. Changed the switch and everything was dandy. You'll probably end up replacing it soon anyhow, even if it's not the problem

 

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Sweet... if you have volts and earth there you should have glow... The bulb isn't something funny is it? It is the dual filament 5/20W (or whatever they are) in a 12V lamp? I've seen people force the single filament bulbs in them before... Even though they're not supposed to fit, people make them... :? Is the tail light filament in it working?

I suspect a lack of tail light resistance may also stop the cruise from cancelling based on how it is wired...

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REW93N wrote:
Lucion wrote:
TimmyA wrote:
If cruise wont cancel on an EF/EL it is a dodgy brake light switch... You can verify this by tramping the brake instead of gently pressing it... This causes the back up to operate on the master cylinder... I somehow bet this may be causing brake light issues also...

Have you used your multimeter to actually see if there is voltage at the bulb holder? And alternatively an earth?

Cheers,
Tim


yeah Tim the earth is good and there's power getting to the globe holder.
REW thinks replacing the peddle switch might help also so i might as well do that ( my XE was much easier to figger out lol but after having that for 22 years it was time to up grade i get attched to cars for some reason )

I only think so due to the cruise control, happened to me a little while back. Changed the switch and everything was dandy. You'll probably end up replacing it soon anyhow, even if it's not the problem


So true and if its not that at least i have a Spear which is always a good thing...i have been reading the forums and have seen it might pay to have a few spear globes and fuses ( which i do like to keep in the glove box) hanging around...so think that if your roof light blows you cant start your car 0.0
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