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 Post subject: EF/XH BEM
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:39 pm 
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Hello all,

I recently did some reading into replacing my Body Electronics Moduel in my '96 XH ute.
I'm going from a low series BEM, to a mid series BEM. Supposedly plug n' play.
I read that the EF BEM is the equivalent and that an EL BEM wouldn't work.
I've also read that the EF is coloured RED while EL is coloured BLUE.
Now I looked through EF's at my local wreckers and only found BLUE BEM's. Does this sound right? I fitted a BLUE BEM to my XH, car runs but I have lost my interior light coming on when opening the door. I am currently programing a second BLUE BEM to see if my original was faulty.
Any help would be appreciated guys.

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 Post subject: Re: EF/XH BEM
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:40 pm 
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Attachment:
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red if BEM has been replaced at some time - how many plugs to BEM ?
this may help
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 Post subject: Re: EF/XH BEM
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:44 pm 
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TedW wrote:
Attachment:
ImmobilisationISG 2of 2.pdf
Attachment:
Immobilisation 1of 2.pdf
red if BEM has been replaced at some time - how many plugs to BEM ?
this may help



Two plugs into BEM.
In reading that, I think I may not be leaving it to program long enough. I've left it well over 30 minutes, but it says 61 for an XH. So I shall try that and see how it goes.

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 Post subject: Re: EF/XH BEM
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:29 pm 
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Hey all,

I went through the 61 minute program of my BEM. All appears to be working but the interior light won't turn on when the doors are opened. The 20 second fade out works, but that is all. I can manually turn on the light, and when fade out starts, if I open a door the interior light will stay on as it should.
Any suggestions? I've tried two different BEM's with the same result.

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 Post subject: Re: EF/XH BEM
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:28 pm 
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The XH light wiring is different than the E Series - switches are put to power, instead of put to ground.

Im not sure if thats taken care of in the BEM's. might be.

Just a thought

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 Post subject: Re: EF/XH BEM
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:36 pm 
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Nigel wrote:
The XH light wiring is different than the E Series - switches are put to power, instead of put to ground.

Im not sure if thats taken care of in the BEM's. might be.

Just a thought

Nigel



Thanks for the input Nigel.

I do wonder though, if that being the case, shouldn't manually turning the light on blow a fuse? Also, how come when opening the door as fade is on, the light works?

I'm still a bit stumped.

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 Post subject: Re: EF/XH BEM
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:14 pm 
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The XH door switches are a ground seeking circuit.
Does the interior light work normally with the original BEM plugged in ?

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF/XH BEM
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:31 pm 
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snap0964 wrote:
The XH door switches are a ground seeking circuit.
Does the interior light work normally with the original BEM plugged in ?


When I removed the original BEM from the car, the interior lights worked as per normal. How would I go about making these work in my XH, since they work opposite?

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 Post subject: Re: EF/XH BEM
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:39 pm 
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Beats me - the wiring is pretty much the same - except with the addition of the variable adjuster of the intermittent wipers.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF/XH BEM
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:14 pm 
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snap0964 wrote:
Beats me - the wiring is pretty much the same - except with the addition of the variable adjuster of the intermittent wipers.


Thanks for your help so far.
The variable intermittent wiper was the reason I originally swapped the BEM's. Would fitting a series 2 XH BEM solve all my issues? I can see this being hard to come by.

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 Post subject: Re: EF/XH BEM
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:41 am 
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Doubt it - the XHII BEMS have a smartlock relearn about the same as EL's, around 60 min, whereas the EF's and XHI's are around 30 min.

The interior lights get constant 12v, the BEM controls the earth side, as well as receiving the earth line for the door switches.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EF/XH BEM
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:24 am 
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snap0964 wrote:
Doubt it - the XHII BEMS have a smartlock relearn about the same as EL's, around 60 min, whereas the EF's and XHI's are around 30 min.

The interior lights get constant 12v, the BEM controls the earth side, as well as receiving the earth line for the door switches.


Looks like I'll have to have one or the other then. That's a bit disappointing.
Did XH1 XR6's come with the variable speed intermittent wipers?

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 Post subject: Re: EF/XH BEM
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:16 am 
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Thought the BEM's were black for those models?
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