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Was gonna say dont forget to wire up the neutral switch so it doesn't start in gear then remembered that one in eleventy billion smartlock equipped fords is manual :p
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{USERNAME} wrote: Was gonna say dont forget to wire up the neutral switch so it doesn't start in gear then remembered that one in eleventy billion smartlock equipped fords is manual :p
lol. And the auto has an inhibitor switch anyway.
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The advertisements in US audio magazines in the late 80's used to advertise remote start alarms showing snow, a car outside a window and how your car will be warm when you get in, just tells you how far Australia is behind when it comes to alarms.
Cummins diesel engines have a similar system called ICON. While the driver is asleep in the cab the engine will start up and shut down to maintain cabin temperature. Its only available in the states. The reason we havnt caught on here yet is because WE DONT FUKIN NEED IT. When I wake up on a cold morning I simply walk out to my car, start the engine, walk back inside and have my cornflakes. Didnt cost me a cent and I didnt have to bypass the smart lock.
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{USERNAME} wrote: The advertisements in US audio magazines in the late 80's used to advertise remote start alarms showing snow, a car outside a window and how your car will be warm when you get in, just tells you how far Australia is behind when it comes to alarms.
Cummins diesel engines have a similar system called ICON. While the driver is asleep in the cab the engine will start up and shut down to maintain cabin temperature. Its only available in the states. The reason we havnt caught on here yet is because WE DONT FUKIN NEED IT. When I wake up on a cold morning I simply walk out to my car, start the engine, walk back inside and have my cornflakes. Didnt cost me a cent and I didnt have to bypass the smart lock. I do believe you have just defeated smartlock - You put your key in the vehicle and walked away from it. That's all insurance is going to care about. |
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Well for those of you who doubted me and were at the all ford day you would have had a chance to see the remote start working in the flesh.
Certainly caught a few people off guard.
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{USERNAME} wrote: The reason we havnt caught on here yet is because WE DONT FUKIN NEED IT. When I wake up on a cold morning I simply walk out to my car, start the engine, walk back inside and have my cornflakes. Didnt cost me a cent and I didnt have to bypass the smart lock.
Nice if you know your car will still be there 20mins later, even if you have a shed, I don't think you would run your car without opening the roller door etc. Heaps of alarm functions haven't caught on here yet, and we are normally far behind with other things too, man look how long it took for automatic climate control to come here, first Aussie Ford was EA high series and it is still only a high series fitment, and you can say we are any different to needing that, Aussie cars are normally way behind the eight ball, BA was probably the biggest leap forward, but there is still many things that should be standard but aren't. When I was living in Armidale a few years back I would have loved a remote start, f**k if I was going out to my XD in (+/-) -13C mornings to start it and run back inside to get warm again. You know it is cold when the sun heats up the shed roof, the condensation drips on your windscreen, then refreezes again.
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{USERNAME} wrote: Its only available in the states. The reason we havnt caught on here yet is because WE DONT FUKIN NEED IT. When I wake up on a cold morning I simply walk out to my car, start the engine, walk back inside and have my cornflakes. Didnt cost me a cent and I didnt have to bypass the smart lock.
Thats not a fair comment to say WE dont need it. YOU might not think it's necessary and thats fine your entitled to your opinion but shouldn't speak about what others do or dont need. EXAMPLE The BA falcon's have a feature that turns your headlights off after a minute or so once you've left the car and locked it + a sensor to turn them on automatically when it gets dark. I'm sure people said how bloddy hard is it to turn your lights on and off when you need them and yet this feature is very populcar and prevents many flat battery's. No one needs heaps of stuff in cars like stereos, it is possible just to sit and drive in silence, larger exhausts, sunroof's, climate control and yet these are things people add every day because they are nice to have and make life eaiser.
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Spot on pyroay
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Pyroay, where abouts did you get your alarm fitted?
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I'm getting a s/h ignition barrel/key. So I'm gonna see if I can wire it up so it'll fool smartlock (I'll have it hidden somewhere, and have the actual ignition circuits permanently disabled on it).
So my existing ignition barrel will retain the ignition circuits but won't be hooked up to the BEM, the new barrel will. Thus when the remote starter kicks in, the BEM will see a signal from the new lock and allow the ECU to run. Then I get in car, put my key in the original barrel, turn it to On position and drive off. The alarm will kill the engine if the brake pedal is pushed without the key in the on position, so can't drive off with it. And with the new barrel hidden and disabled, ay thief won't be able to use that barrel/key to bypass alarm. Well at least that is the plan.
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{USERNAME} wrote: Pyroay, where abouts did you get your alarm fitted?
I came accross a guy who is a bit of an electronics man and spent a few days cracking a way around the smartlock. Not supprisingly he will not share his secret but for $1,000 he will install an alarm with remote start and a heap of other features............. dont want to pay $1,000 thats fine, then buy the alarm ($750) and fit it yourself. I didn';t think it was worth the effort for $250 to fit it let a lone trying to crack something that plenty of people have had problems with. But thats just me.
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{USERNAME} wrote: {USERNAME} wrote: Pyroay, where abouts did you get your alarm fitted? I came accross a guy who is a bit of an electronics man and spent a few days cracking a way around the smartlock. Not supprisingly he will not share his secret but for $1,000 he will install an alarm with remote start and a heap of other features............. dont want to pay $1,000 thats fine, then buy the alarm ($750) and fit it yourself. I didn';t think it was worth the effort for $250 to fit it let a lone trying to crack something that plenty of people have had problems with. But thats just me. Awesome stuff; are you willing to share this guys details mate; if so post em up or PM me as i am trying to find someone who can do exactly this, everywhere i ask they say "its imposible, just forget about it..." 
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Yeah I'm the same as Daniel. Gotta look after the fairlane.
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Ive been looking at a remote car alarm system for mine aswell, lucky I have no smart lock... but i do have a manual (hehe)... I thought you should leave the manual in gear so it can't be rolled away? say if some fick snips your hand brake cable?
so remote start shouldn't be in a manual car? (now I see disadvantages of manuals lol). As for bypassing smartlock, and reflective surface I thought the the key had a chip mounted in it, and the code sat on that... And that way the smartlock read the code on this chip and then verfied it. That would explain why you would leave a new key in for 30 mins, so smartlock can relearn its code? The second ignition barrel is a bit excessive... I was thinking more along the lines of, find the wires which go to the ignition barel from the smart lock, and then just crack open your spare key, or buy a new one, and ge tthe chip (if they actually have one.. not sure) from that one, and solder it onto those wires... that way the immobiliser is permanently disabled. The next thing would be to hook up another alarm system that works of a remote, and has a relay sitting before this switch, and when you disarm the alarm, the circuit with this chip is complete... then you effectively have smartlock, just it can be controlled remotely. enough rambling... such to have smartlock somtimes... lucky me 
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{USERNAME} wrote: Ive been looking at a remote car alarm system for mine aswell, lucky I have no smart lock... but i do have a manual (hehe)... I thought you should leave the manual in gear so it can't be rolled away? say if some fick snips your hand brake cable?
so remote start shouldn't be in a manual car? (now I see disadvantages of manuals lol). As for bypassing smartlock, and reflective surface I thought the the key had a chip mounted in it, and the code sat on that... And that way the smartlock read the code on this chip and then verfied it. That would explain why you would leave a new key in for 30 mins, so smartlock can relearn its code? The second ignition barrel is a bit excessive... I was thinking more along the lines of, find the wires which go to the ignition barel from the smart lock, and then just crack open your spare key, or buy a new one, and ge tthe chip (if they actually have one.. not sure) from that one, and solder it onto those wires... that way the immobiliser is permanently disabled. The next thing would be to hook up another alarm system that works of a remote, and has a relay sitting before this switch, and when you disarm the alarm, the circuit with this chip is complete... then you effectively have smartlock, just it can be controlled remotely. enough rambling... such to have smartlock somtimes... lucky me Cheers For SmartLock (EB2-AU1) the code is in the ignition barrel and activated when the key is On (I hope it's not start). For SmartShield (AU2 etc) there is a chip in the key (aka transponder).
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