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After a conversation with auMatt and his chinese 'clone ELM', he pointed me to this website. Perhaps it is what is inside his unit? Not sure. The software looks to be using ELM commands, so it appears to be an ELM. I have to go back and find out what PIC chip is in the ELM to see what's going on here - can a real ELM be installed?
http://www.obddiag.net/ Lukeyson |
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I got a 5R29 I6 (BF) PCM on my bench today. That, and some scans of a SYTX with a ZF Tranny has helped me update my list of broadcast messages.
This is what I have so far, and what module I think is responsible for each message: Messages Module 070 YAW 075 YAW 080 SAS 097 PCM 0C9 TCM 0FC PCM 120 PCM 12d PCM 200 PCM 207 PCM 210 ABS 230 PCM 307 ICC 353 HIM 3E9 TCM 403 BEM 427 PCM 437 IC 44d PCM 4b0 ABS 4c0 PCM 500 IC 553 IC 623 PCM 640 PCM 650 PCM 6f6 PCM 6f8 PCM?? Lukeyson Last edited by Lukeyson on Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:12 am, edited 1 time in total. |
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Lukeyson wrote: After a conversation with auMatt and his chinese 'clone ELM', he pointed me to this website. Perhaps it is what is inside his unit? Not sure. The software looks to be using ELM commands, so it appears to be an ELM. I have to go back and find out what PIC chip is in the ELM to see what's going on here - can a real ELM be installed?
http://www.obddiag.net/ Lukeyson Turns out that obddiag tool is a custom solution with ELM Compatible commands. The ELM does most of the OBD protocols onboard, does have an external CAN chip, but also has an external USB chip if you go usb. That tool above has all diags on external chips, but has USB internal. It's definitely not pin compatible with an ELM, so all the things the ELM does, like do software speed, and speeds of 500kbps, most likely can't be done on this custom solution. Go with the OBDPro - Or a genuine scantool.net tool - if these things concern you. For the basic stuff though, those Chinese ELM 'clones' are functional but with limits. Interesting though isn't it. 2 years ago the big tool companies said 'stay away from the ELM because it's too slow'. Now that the ELM has picked up speed, the ELM guys are saying 'stay away from the chinese clones, they are too slow'..... Makes you wonder what it'll be like in 2 years time ... and what will the ELM327 1.3 have in store for us? Lukeyson |
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Well I finally got off my bum and tried to get Shift Alert enabled on a BF Cluster.
What I grabbed was a standard XT/XL BF Cluster, installed a FPV Fascia, installed a couple of SMD transistors, resistors and LEDS to enable DSC and Foglights etc. De soldered all the Green LEDS and installed some white and blue ones. Flashed a FPV EEPROM file onto the Cluster EEPROM(reinstating the correct serial number etc). Did some final recalibration of the needles and set the features(Police mode and Shift Alert etc). Installed it into my BA XR6 and now at about 5750 RPM I get this annoying beeping sounds that tell me to shift. So my next step is to find out the exact section of the EEPROM that is causing it to be enabled and hopefully a way to adjust where is kicks in. Matt
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Good work.
BTW, the new version of your app, still giving me the same problem.
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data_mine, do you have anything special enabled on your tool. As I send teh ATZ command which should reset your tool. Send me another log.
Matt
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Nah, AFAIK it's a bog standard ELM327 unit. It's a Palmer Performance branded unit (I got PCMScan with it). I've used various other tools with it, and hyperterm with Luke instructions for police mode, and shift alert settings. No problems.
The bluetooth OBD2 thingy I got = unhappy. Appears to not work at all. I can connect to it wirelessly, but it doesn't seem to connect to the car.
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Was the original eeprom out of a FPV 6 or 8?
Datamine, with regard to Matts question, we had some issues getting his utility to work because I had atma set by default when my ELM first turned on using the PP commands. SO it would turn on and start pumping stuff on the screen - and that stopped his software from getting the right response when he issued cold or warm reset commands. Regarding the tool itself, Brian has some sort of arrangement with the guys at www.scantool.net for corss-selling and branding their products. Is that the tool you have? Lukeyson |
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Luke, I think it was out of an 8, but cant be sure as it was a defective cluster that was handed to me many moons ago.
Is the shift alert at a different rpm for 6 and 8? Matt
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I don't know to be honest. For some reason I thought so. There was a thread on AFF where some guys said the shift alert was at a different RPM for 6's and 8's. I'll see if I can find it. We might already have a link to it in this thread.
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I think I have found where the rpm is stored. Im going to make up some extension leads for the cluster So I can connection my test cluster that has the eeprom socket so I dont have to keep soldering the BF cluster with new eeprom to try it out.
Will let you know. Matt
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Lukeyson wrote: Was the original eeprom out of a FPV 6 or 8?
Datamine, with regard to Matts question, we had some issues getting his utility to work because I had atma set by default when my ELM first turned on using the PP commands. SO it would turn on and start pumping stuff on the screen - and that stopped his software from getting the right response when he issued cold or warm reset commands. Regarding the tool itself, Brian has some sort of arrangement with the guys at www.scantool.net for corss-selling and branding their products. Is that the tool you have? Lukeyson It looks physically the same as this: http://www.scantool.net/products/images ... n5_web.jpg. but with a PalmerPerformance sticker on the top. I use a Serial-USB dongle to get it to the laptop, but that hasn't caused any troubles (works on other devices too). Mine doesn't automatically start spewing stuff out. As I've told Matt directly, the only differences I can see between his prog and both PCMScan and another one I've tried, is Matt uses lowercase commands and CrLf line feeds, while the others use uppercase and Cr only. Dunno if mine doesn't like that.
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Cracking it open confirms it is a scantool.net Elmscan5
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I just bought a BA XR8 Auto PCM off eBay. I was able to convert it to a BA2 GT Manual PCM. Both cars use the ABU-251 hardware part code.
I'd need access to a BA GT Manual to see if it really worked, but for Lab purposes, it appears to have been completely successful. It also means that I can make it a BA XR8 Manual PCM and play swapsies with the one in my car, VIN and all, and play with the CAPA box i have on the lab bench. Lukeyson |
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Posts: 5 Joined: 31st Jul 2008 Ride: Crown Victoria Police Intercepto Location: Inland Empire, California, USA |
I am new to this forum and this topic. However, it may be relevant to ask if anybody figured out how to, using OBDII or Ford Specific commands, induce KOER test and then read out DTC (if any) upon its completion.
For some reason I suspect Mode $8 would alow doing it. Thank you.
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