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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:58 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: BA-BF-SX-SY - Scantool Fun
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:10 pm 
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Is there a noobe version of this thread, that simply states which connectors and software can be combined with the identified falcon specific codes? Obviously you guys have worked it all out, so I'm thinking somebody would have put it all together somewhere....maybe even a wikipedia page would be nice to share around...
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 Post subject: Re: BA-BF-SX-SY - Scantool Fun
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:16 am 
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Hi all (and especially Lukeyson. :-) )

I have Ford Escort (Europe) and his airbag is wired only to pin 7 on DLC.
I would like to do some utility for airbag and abs.
I tried connect to airbag module, but without success.

Tried 5 bit init (7,o,1) with all addresses (0x00 - 0xFF) without success.
I generated 5 baud directly in Windows, so timing is not perfect, but I hope it is enough exact.

Also I tried Lukeyson's tip (from this thread, I think) "64 58 f5 22 02 00 + (iso)CN" (without any 5 baud init) and nothing returned again. :-(

Please, do you know something about initialization process ?
Thanks in advance.

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 Post subject: Re: BA-BF-SX-SY - Scantool Fun
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:41 pm 
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Hi guys i am a new member and have read though this thread quite a number of times alot of interesting informaion. I have a carpc setup in my 05 BA and have DashCommand installed connected to the car with a ODBPros scan tool.

I have everything working correctly, but I am after a couple of PID's that arn't standard. From what i have read Lukeyson has been able to extract information using hyperterminal by changing the modes etc. Is it possible that I would be able to have DashCommand 2.0 perform a similar task to get Oil Pressure and Fuel Rail Pressure and other special Ford PID's?

any suggestions would be great, keep up the good work guys.
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:00 am 
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envyosxr wrote:
Hi guys i am a new member and have read though this thread quite a number of times alot of interesting informaion. I have a carpc setup in my 05 BA and have DashCommand installed connected to the car with a ODBPros scan tool.

I have everything working correctly, but I am after a couple of PID's that arn't standard. From what i have read Lukeyson has been able to extract information using hyperterminal by changing the modes etc. Is it possible that I would be able to have DashCommand 2.0 perform a similar task to get Oil Pressure and Fuel Rail Pressure and other special Ford PID's?

any suggestions would be great, keep up the good work guys.


In short no, you can't.

1. There's no fuel pressure sensor at all.
2. The oil pressure switch isn't part of the OBD2 system, and the oil pressure gauge on FPV's also isn't part of the OBD2 system

You can't read them because they're not there.

 

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 Post subject: Re: BA-BF-SX-SY - Scantool Fun
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:36 pm 
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Thanks for that mate, yea i had a feeling it wasn't going to happen. Just wanted to double check with you guys before I go out and buy a real gauge for oil pressure.
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:06 pm 
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Check this out.

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-ne ... -xjc3.html

It all sounds vaguely familiar doesn't it......


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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:55 pm 
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Lukeyson wrote:
Just when I thought there was no more left to learn, I made a new discovery the other day.

In the same way that we know how to toy with the Dials on an ICC using an OBD2 tool (ELM, J2534 etc), I found that there are settings in nearly ALL modules that can be fiddled with the same way.

I already knew some of the BEM stuff - like turning on wipers and the wiper washers etc.

But my recent discovery included settings in the Airbag Module, the ABS Module, the HIM, the Park Aid Module and the ICC.

The ICC was the most interesting of all, because it uncovered a Display Diagnostics mode. The Ford Tech boys probably knew about this all along, but now we know how to trigger it funnally with the ELM style tools. I could also trigger pretty much all of the audio buttons - including the 6 screen presets and the steering-wheel buttons. It was fun ejecting CD's, changing the volume and powering the thing off and on all from by lab pc. But then small things usually do amuse me.... I have only tried this on a DZ High Series ICC, I've yet to see what's available in the Low Series MCC units.

Lukeyson

Any chance you could post the details about BEM, Airbag Module, HIM, PAM, ICC and any others?
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:58 pm 
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Lukeyson wrote:
I'm hearing rumours that auMatt might be on the verge of creating some software that might be able to do an ICC Security Code using a cheap ELM327 scantool.

Watch this space.....


Lukeyson

Still watching!! C'mon matt!
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:39 pm 
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:40 pm 
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Any ideas what PIDs to listen too for the auto gear indicator (that shows on the cluster)

 

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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:53 am 
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data_mine wrote:
Any ideas what PIDs to listen too for the auto gear indicator (that shows on the cluster)

Probably one or other of the usual Ford mode 22 PIDs:
11B3 GEAR Gear commanded for transmission
16B3 GEAR (Transmission Gear Status)

There are dozens of others but I think those are theones to try first.

Fire up an elm,
atsp6
atsh7e0 not convinced you need this
2211B3
see what you get
2216B3
and again

Sorry if I forgot anything but am not near a car right now!

Oh.... those should indicate the gear. Did you just want "whether in auto or not" kind of thing?
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data_mine wrote:
Any ideas what PIDs to listen too for the auto gear indicator (that shows on the cluster)

Probably one or other of the usual Ford mode 22 PIDs:
11B3 GEAR Gear commanded for transmission
16B3 GEAR (Transmission Gear Status)

There are dozens of others but I think those are theones to try first.

Fire up an elm,
atsp6
atsh7e0 not convinced you need this
2211B3
see what you get
2216B3
and again

Sorry if I forgot anything but am not near a car right now!

Oh.... those should indicate the gear. Did you just want "whether in auto or not" kind of thing?


Thanks I'll give those a go. Am after what actual gear is selected. But a drive or 'manual mode' setting would be handy too.

 

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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:35 pm 
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data_mine wrote:
Thanks I'll give those a go. Am after what actual gear is selected. But a drive or 'manual mode' setting would be handy too.

One of those will likely do it. Or you could watch the broadcast msg, which I think is 3E9, and decode its params.

You have the ZF and paddles on the steering wheel? Did you snoop to see what messages are sent when you use them?
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:11 pm 
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fordsme wrote:
data_mine wrote:
Thanks I'll give those a go. Am after what actual gear is selected. But a drive or 'manual mode' setting would be handy too.

One of those will likely do it. Or you could watch the broadcast msg, which I think is 3E9, and decode its params.

You have the ZF and paddles on the steering wheel? Did you snoop to see what messages are sent when you use them?


No snooping yet. AFAIK the trans controller receives simple 12v on/off signals from the shifter (or my add on) that go right to the ZF itself, no OBD signals used there.

I've just gotten home, and grabbed a terminal emulator for my winmo phone will head on down to the car and give them a trial.

 

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