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 Post subject: Is my O2 sensor defective?
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:15 pm 
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I have an EB 6 cyl I have recently picked up for my wife and ther previous owner put in extractors and ended up getting an O2 sensor from the wreckers for it.

The car seemed to be going through a great deal of fuel. There was a strong fuel smell in the exhaust and the pipe was dark sooty.

My sensor has three wires - a black and two white.

I stuck a pin in each of them and measured the voltage with a hot engine.
One White is 14.49v
Black is .65v (this started at .4v and slowly went up
The other White is a constant .04v

Because there is a strong fuel smell in the exhaust I suspect that the sensor is working pumping out .65v

Can anyone please tell me where to go from here?
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:56 pm 
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the white wire with 14v is ignition power the other white wire is an earth and the black wire is the signal wire to the ecu its voltage should be between 0.1V - 0.8V with Engine Running. so it sounds like its within its operating range.
otherwise have you looked at things like air filter? as a dirty or clogged air filter can also cause it to run rich.
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:01 am 
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whos to say the wreakers O2 wasnt f**k? why not buy a new one? what was wrong with the old one?

black is meant to be earth (i think. if its .4v-.65) that means the reading will be WAY out. i'd do it right and put a new sensor in for starters and maybe check the earthing.

 

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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:19 am 
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the black wire at the o2 sensor is definatly signal to the ecu.
the other 2 white ones are power for the heated eliment and earth for the eliment..
although at the loom plug the wires change colour.
the black wire from 02 changes to blue/green at the plug..ecu signal
one white wire from o2 changes to grey/yellow at the plug.. + ignition
other white wire from o2 changes to black at the plug..- ground
i just wired in a ba 4 wire into my ed and that was how it was configured..
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:18 am 
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TROYMAN wrote:
the white wire with 14v is ignition power the other white wire is an earth and the black wire is the signal wire to the ecu its voltage should be between 0.1V - 0.8V with Engine Running. so it sounds like its within its operating range.
otherwise have you looked at things like air filter? as a dirty or clogged air filter can also cause it to run rich.

Thanks for the advice - I just removed the air filter and tested the black wire voltage - It maxed out at .63v
I put the air filter back and tested again - same voltage.

The previous owner of the car thought he was improving engine efficiency with putting on extractors. I noticed that each group of three cylinder outlets converge into a single pipe, then these two pipes converge into a single exhaust pipe. The O2 sensor is on only one of the two converging pipes so it will not be sensing the total O2 output. Would this have anything to do with the .63v reading? I thought best operating range was .35v to .4v
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:32 am 
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Aspire wrote:
The O2 sensor is on only one of the two converging pipes so it will not be sensing the total O2 output. Would this have anything to do with the .63v reading? I thought best operating range was .35v to .4v


I believe the O2 sensor would not be affected by this. It doesn't need the total volume, just a smell...

 

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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:54 pm 
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An EB, or even EL for that matter o2 sensor is the best part of 10 years old,
It would be good practise to spend the $80 odd (or less) and replace it with a new one.

Other things to check, are coolant temp sensor, and map sensor or the hose.
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