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 Post subject: Manual car with Auto ECU please Help
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:52 pm 
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Hi I have read through all of the posts on manual conversions and just need to know what inputs to the computer need to have resistors put between them .

I think from what I have read that
Input term 30: transmission position SW gets a 6.8k resistor between it and term 46: Sensor Earth
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Input term 42: A/T Oil Temp sensor gets a 1.2K resistor between it and term 46: sensor Earth.

Is that all thats required?

I have a manual XH with water damaged ECU (so the fault codes keep saying) and can't get a manual one. This seems like an easy way to go.
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 Post subject: Re: Manual car with Auto ECU please Help
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:51 am 
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hi dude the xh ute has the same ecu as an el thicker pins as the ef has the needle type and more pins i have a xh manual ecu in the shed doing nothing was going to sell on ebay was going to put $100 on it

 

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 Post subject: Re: Manual car with Auto ECU please Help
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:01 am 
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kingsrat wrote:
Hi I have read through all of the posts on manual conversions and just need to know what inputs to the computer need to have resistors put between them .

I think from what I have read that
Input term 30: transmission position SW gets a 6.8k resistor between it and term 46: Sensor Earth
and
Input term 42: A/T Oil Temp sensor gets a 1.2K resistor between it and term 46: sensor Earth.

Is that all thats required?


yes that it correct...
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 Post subject: Re: Manual car with Auto ECU please Help
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:46 am 
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yeah puting all the resistors in would help in the conversion alot of stuffing around thou, there are chips u can plug in with the manual program all it is is a plug in that over rides the auto program a friend has this in his ef gli manual car started out as a auto ..works ok and u can also fiddle with the program ie fuel ,spark timming ect ...a j3 chip or the more expencive chip tougue one. i still have the ecu in the shed from a xh manual ute ..i was going to use when i converted my ef to manual but found out that ef s.have a different ecu than a el as one is destrib and the other is coilpak bummer had to order a new one from ford $700 will be listing it soon on ebay have to get rid of some of the parts in the shed so yeah though this info would help.....

 

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 Post subject: Re: Manual car with Auto ECU please Help
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:43 pm 
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Thanks for the help, Where do you get the plug in conversion chip? I also have an EL motor complete with an auto computer so could use it if I change to that.

Thanks Again
Shane
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 Post subject: Re: Manual car with Auto ECU please Help
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:57 pm 
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Nothing to see here.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Manual car with Auto ECU please Help
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:51 pm 
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yep, in your very own thread
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 Post subject: Re: Manual car with Auto ECU please Help
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:41 am 
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woah, sorry - hit reply on the wrong thread. Never mind.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Manual car with Auto ECU please Help
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:47 am 
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yeah sorry mate benn a bit busy doing a au manual conversion ..any way yea if your having troubles getting a good manual ecu and only have the auto one there are ways to change it to a manual programe ie a j3 chip or a chiptorque one the j3 are pretty cheap round 200 but the chiptorque ones are pretty pricy mine cost me $700 with a basic upgrated exhaust tune havnt used a j3 so dont know if there any good there are however a few guys on here who know the dudes who could provide a chip with a manual tune just have to use the search ..any way hope this info helps

 

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 Post subject: Re: Manual car with Auto ECU please Help
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:30 am 
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using resistors cost around 45cents & takes about 15 minutes to achieve the same outcome on a standard car..... the only reason you would get a J3 or chiptorque would be if you had mods that extend furthur than the 'zorst n filter' crowd.

i think after swapping boxes mechanically, a small wiring harness mod is nothing. towing it somwhere to get chipped is expensive, time consuming and yields similar results.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Manual car with Auto ECU please Help
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:58 pm 
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had a look on another thread there is a complete instruction guide even a retard can read easy steps in volving how to do a manual conversion including clutch pedal setup and how to convert the wire loom to the gearbox from auto to manual a few restistors, had a good look at it and its spot on make sure that the nuetral switch is working on the gear box ,,other wise u can set up a clutch pedal switch to by pass it ...

 

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 Post subject: Re: Manual car with Auto ECU please Help
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:31 pm 
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Hi thanks Shane,
I looked for everything I could find before I asked the questions. I have found the instruction you mentioned and it was useful.

My car is a factory manual, I am not doing a conversion, so the wiring plug mentioned doesn't exist on my car. Thats why I want to make the changes at the ECU end.

My manual ECU is stuffed and I can get an auto one a lot easier. Thanks for the offer to buy your manual one, I have bought a whole EL engine with the BBM and another Auto ECU to suit that so was after a fix for now with my XH engine and for when I get my a** in gear and put in the better engine.

I knew from reading that the resistors were only to trick the AUTO ECU into thinking it is in neutral
by putting this one in
Input term 30: transmission position SW gets a 6.8k resistor between it and term 46: Sensor Earth
and
Input term 42: A/T Oil Temp sensor gets a 1.2K resistor between it and term 46: sensor Earth.
to stop the fans running constantly
My only other query was about the idle speed but I have read up on adjusting that shorting the pins on the diag connector, waiting two minutes, pulling the plug on the ISC and adjusting it.

Thanks to all for your assistance and I will no doubt be asking for more when I start tracing all the extra vacuum lines on the EL engine.
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 Post subject: Re: Manual car with Auto ECU please Help
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:35 pm 
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yep not a prob i have done a el engine into a ef all the vac lines a very simular the only different stuff is the dissy and the crank pully some of the el dont have a crank sensor.the good thing about the el motors is the head gaskets are much better than the efs....

 

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