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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:17 pm 
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possible by adding cam and ticky computer?? mods already are 2.5inch lukey and lukey extractors, ticky snorkle. wats throughts?
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:18 pm 
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 pm 
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V8 or I6?

200kw is fairly hard without doing some internal engine mods. Exhaust will give around 10kw, tickford computer won't give you much at all. If its an I6, you will need to get a new cam and some headwork. If its a V8 you will need new intake, underdrives, roller rockers and exhaust then you may be getting close.
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:06 am 
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I'd go Wade Stage 2 and some head porting - but why aim for 200 fwkw...aim for rwkw...that's what makes the car move :)

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:47 pm 
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if decieded to go with stage 2 cam would a ticky comp help at all?? id like 2 see the I6 in the 180-190fwkw if possible with cam and comp, as said b4 i have already a 2.5 and extractors just woundring if possible 2 reach these figures.
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:24 pm 
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anyone out there whos running wade stage 2 cams with problems? and also wat r theyworth
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:04 pm 
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red rocket.

I run the wade 1604 in my EF. I installed it into an otherwise stock XR, and to tell the truth it didnt make much difference. The car pulls reall strong between 1800 and 3800 revs, althogh thats it.

 

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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:23 pm 
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The Wade 1004 is too small and the EECV won't handle it because the fuel system will need more fuel pressure to support that power on stock injectors.

Also dcstraight, TORQUE is what makes a car move not hp, either rwhp or fwhp!!
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:01 pm 
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Bert wrote:
The Wade 1004 is too small and the EECV won't handle it because the fuel system will need more fuel pressure to support that power on stock injectors.


If he put in an XR ecu, the computer will help with fuelling...sure nothing in the increase of what a rising rate fuel reg will do...but it would be better than stock...his car would also idle better.

Bert wrote:
Also dcstraight, TORQUE is what makes a car move not hp, either rwhp or fwhp!!


Thanks Bert - I know the maths...was just curious why having a FWKW goal instead of something at the drive wheels - ie getting that power to the ground :?:

Don't get me wrong...our 4L and 5L variants are great in the torque department as you know - the I6 Tickford for example only makes 5 more FWKW than the standard I6 (Ghia)...the XR is 7 more than stock right ? Doesn't sound like much on paper - and people who haven't done their homework or haven't driven these Tickford enhanced specials have not experienced how driveable they are and where maximum torque is made - AFAIK, Tickford 6cyl make max torque at 1800 rpm...standard I6 ~4700 rpm or thereabouts.

At the end of the day, I *personally* don't care how much power my car makes...as long as it's driveable is all I'm concerned with...even in stock form I love driving my EL Ghia everyday :D

Sorry for the essay !

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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:22 pm 
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Bert wrote:
The Wade 1004 is too small and the EECV won't handle it because the fuel system will need more fuel pressure to support that power on stock injectors.

Also dcstraight, TORQUE is what makes a car move not hp, either rwhp or fwhp!!


Bert I think you are jumping in when you don't have a clue, unless you are not filling us in with your wisdom, the stock fuel system can handle that cam, the stock EECV can probably handle the 1521a.

This is a link to the Wade cam page for Ford SOHC I6.
http://www.wadecams.com/PoProf/Ford_6cy ... 0_SOHC.htm

I do not know if Waggin has posted the specs on his wagon, but he was getting around 180rwkw (DEV5a) using a chipped EECV (JMM did the work) and JMM can get 170rwkw with a total stock ECU.
There is also no fuel system upgrades up to this point.
http://www.jimmockmotorsport.com/html/D ... _EA-AU.php

Waggin's dyno sheet
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Evildan's dyno sheet. (I do not know what Evildan's current member name is.)
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:53 pm 
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Damage wrote:
Bert I think you are jumping in when you don't have a clue, unless you are not filling us in with your wisdom, the stock fuel system can handle that cam, the stock EECV can probably handle the 1521a.


Exactly, the 1004 is a decent cam for stock engines without head porting etc, the 1521a is much bigger and great if you have other mods, both are fine with the stock fuel system. In fact with the I6s too much fuel is supplied until you get to around 180rwkw on the I6s.

Redrocket, rather than going for a tickford computer, get yourself a chiptorque chip or unichip which can be tuned to your cam and other mods.
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:07 pm 
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My aplogies but I quickly wrote that reply just before I went to bed. What I meant is that the EECV won't handle 200fwkw because larger injectors or fuel pressre mods are needed. AND that the Wade 1004 is too small to support 200fwhp NA.

200fwkw would need something with at least another 10deg more duration @050" and slightly more compression, not to mention better fuel system.
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:14 pm 
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Also I 'm pretty sure that JMM make larger cams work with the stock ecu by spreading the LSA which IMO a s**t way to do it. Spreading the LSA makes the car lazy on part throttle, I learnt this because of a s**t grind that Ivan Tighe did for me yaers ago. The better way is to get an aftermarket ecu. I know a guy with 158rwkw with a stg 3 crow cam and wolf 3d ver 4.
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:35 pm 
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Bert wrote:
What I meant is that the EECV won't handle 200fwkw because larger injectors or fuel pressre mods are needed.


Pardon my ignorance but didn't EL GT do 200fwkw on EECV? Or are you referring mainly to the 6cyl?

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:38 pm 
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Pretty sure we're talking I6 here.

EECV is fine for N/A as Damage has mentioned with Waggin's EF as an example.

 

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