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 Post subject: Surge Tank Manufacture
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:34 pm 
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Hi guys,

Silly question here, I've noticed that all the surge tanks, catch cans and other bits and pieces that you can buy off the shelf are made from alloy.

I want to build my own surge tank and water to air intercooler overflow as I've got a few things I want to try and incorporate together in mine.

However, I am under the impression that to weld alloy effectively you need to be able to TIG it with AC. I don't currently own a welder, but would like to soon, so I can go either TIG or MIG. I can't, however, find a TIG that'll work on 10 amp (restricted by the house we are in) that has AC capabilities.

So my question is, can I make the tanks out of stainless steel instead? Stainless I should be able to MIG yes? Is the only difference (in a practical sense I mean) the weight between the two materials? Keep in mind one will be holding fuel, the other water and coolant.


Look forward to your responses.

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 Post subject: Re: Surge Tank Manufacture
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:14 pm 
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i'm not sure about the rules and regulations regarding registered vehicles is, but i'm guessing the ones at autobarn aren't adr approved either. having got that out of the way....

from a metallurgical point of view theres no reason you can't use either. i think the trend with ally is that it's light. and a hole lot of staino tanks in your car will weigh a bit. also with injected cars i believe you need double flared type screw fittings as opposed to the barb/clamp arrangement for fuel hardware. most people can tig steel/staino to an acceptable standard with relative ease, alot of people find ally harder & more expensive to setup. Running costs are actually quite comparable (same gas & similar priced consumables). although it's alot easier to work ally than staino.

my personal opinion is get a tig, i've seen expensive 3 phase ally migs that aren't much good untill more money is spent on expensive push pull mechanisms etc. it's expensive to do right because it's nothing like mig welding steel/stainless. tigs however can be purchased fairly cheap.even ally ones. also easier to make a sealing weld with a tig. i could go on all day but it's your choice :P

 

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 Post subject: Re: Surge Tank Manufacture
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:15 pm 
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Thanks for that mate.

The biggest problem I am coming up against with the TIG is that I am restricted to 10amp. I can get DC ones but not AC.

I do need AC to TIG alloy don't I?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Surge Tank Manufacture
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:23 am 
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you certainly do. got an air con at home ? alot of houses have 15 amp outlets for this purpose.can run a lead out. I know your problem. not many work sites have 15amp power either but people still manage :roll:

 

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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:19 pm 
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ha ha nice, love your thinking. Seems I do have access to 15 amp then. ;)

 

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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:50 pm 
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just looked at your location.... i'd hope you have air con lol 8-)

 

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