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This is the underside of the top half of an AU1 BBM. The hole dead-centre of the photo is where the TMAP sensor mounts. It's held in place, obviously, by the 2 screws either side of the hole. Not an easy place to get to, being tucked up under the throttle body when the BBM is bolted on.
So it looks like the pinouts go: -------------------------------------AU1---------AU2+ NA---------XR6T Black/White_________________A__________4____________1 Black/Yellow ________________B__________3____________2 Orange/Black________________C__________2____________3 Blue/Yellow _________________D__________1____________4 The last piece of the puzzle is that the AU1 upper BBM is interchangeable with the AU2/3 upper, allowing fitment of an XR6T TMAP to an AU1 as a prerequisite for a 2-bar tune on a boosted AU1.
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| phillyc |
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I think this should be made a sticky! Great post Sly |
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More info. Here is the MAP output curve as printed in the Haynes manual for the AU1:
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Galapogos01 had me baffled the other day when he wrote here --> post1226326.html#p1226326 that: galapogos01 wrote: Also, as a side note, the 1.5 cars use AU1 MAP and temp sensors, which use a different transfer to the AU2. Though you can run an AU2 bin in them, it won't work properly due to the difference in sensors. as all of the info I had seen so far suggested that the transfer functions were the same in AU1 and AU2/3. But then I recalled a PM that a Sniper user from these forums (and AFF) had sent me some 12 months ago, wherein he said: Quote: My (AU1) has A/D counts 0.000 = 0.00 In HG 61.4375 =4.33 In HG 983.0000 = 31.32 In HG 1023.0000 = 31.99 In HG My (AU2) has A/D counts 0.000 = 0.00 In HG 60.0000 = 2.13 In HG 897.0000 = 31.99 In HG 1023.9844 = 31.99 In HG Long story short, converting "A/D counts" to volts (1024 = 5V) and inHg to kPa shows that his AU1 is within a whisker of mine, and his AU2's transfer table looks like: 7kPa ___________ 0.3V 108kPa _________ 4.4V 108kPa _________ 5.0V Remembering that the AU2 TMAP is closely related to the XR6T TMAP, and that as speculated earlier it looks like the XR6T unit may in fact be a 2.5 bar sensor, I'd take a punt on the full spec for the XR6T TMAP being: 10kPa __________ 0.3V 50kPa __________ 1.0V 100kPa _________ 1.9V 150kPa _________ 2.8V 200kPa _________ 3.7V 250kPa _________ 4.6V 250kPa _________ 5.0V If anyone can prove or disprove this, please put your hand up! And just for the fun of it on a rainy Sunday afternoon, here's a plot of the 3 transfer curves that might be easier to take in than all the numbers.
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silly question will the series 2 au comp run with the ba xr6T map sensor without a tune ? cause i just fitted one onto my series 2 ute and it wouldnt start but once we put the standard au map back in it run again ? |
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Absolutely correct - it's a silly question
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im curently turboing my au 1.5, having the expected issues with voltage going over 5v at around 3psi, it appears the voltage table cannot be manipulated enough to allow boost..
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Quick turn around on the MAP sensor Troy.
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e series map didnt work, i tried this afternoon..e series is frequency based where the au1 is voltage based same as the au2 sensor ..
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What are you using to tune it Troy?
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What are you using to tune it Troy?
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sly wrote: What are you using to tune it Troy? sct xcal3 flash tuner
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temp fitted an xr6t map sensor, wired up as per mentioned above and it starts and idles great, but thats about it, as soon as it sees any load it dies..
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A number of things need to be scaled. The MAP Transfer table won't accept a pressure higher than 32 inHg IIRC, which is mean atmospheric +10%. The VE table won't accept volumetric efficiency greater than 99% in any cell, so you can't simply keep pushing VE up to the limit of the TMAP (which would be 250% in the case of the XR6T TMAP).
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all done, the au1 is running the xr6t 2 bar map sensor via flash tune.
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