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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:08 pm 
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Now looking at Festiva's..... but they seem to fetch alot more, and only have 1.3L engine

TrioS and GLXi have 1.5
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:23 pm 
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Ok, found a common problem so far.

timing belt failures seem to be common and usually result in damaged valvetrain

Been told these excels need new timing belt every 90,000kms...... not a good sign considering most people wouldnt bother if its running ok


just incase you dont know.
all cars with belt driven cams will need the cam belt changed between every 80,000 and 100,000kms or 10 years..
most people dont worrie or dont know about it ..
thats why they say its a common problem because they usually buy a car with just over 100,000 kms thinking its got low kms! lol but forget or dont know that the cam belt is part of the cars 80 or 100,000km service.and some people only change oil ect. and forget about the rubber belt driving the cam..and more than likely they fail just after they buy the car.
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:27 pm 
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ok then

does festiva fall into that category?
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:28 pm 
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my mate got a excel it has just ticked over 999,998 and its been servived every 10,000kms and never have any problems.


has he had it since new.... i hear those motors are dead at 200,000 and seen em come into work that are almost dead at around that age.



yes they have it since new back in 1997-1998

 

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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:22 pm 
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:12 pm 
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my sister has had her hyundai excel for 10 years
and havent had a single problem
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:23 pm 
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edfairmont4.0 wrote:
incredible what a freak.


This isn't the first time I have heard big kms out of an Excel, it has probably done most of those kms on the hwy, early Excel's were just fitted with Mitsubishi engine and gearboxes, "jonathon's" mates engine is actually Hyundai built.

There is actually very few modern 4 cylinders that don't have a timing belt, the average needs it replaced at 100K.

I worked on Festy's when they were new, I personally think they feel like a shopping trolley to drive, but they were reliable, forget about the 1.3L as it was a gutless POS, go the 1.5L, totally different feeling car to drive (but still just a shopping cart), just some of the early 1.5s had gearbox issues.
BTW the early Festys didn't have clear front corner blinkers, but many have faded that bad you can not see any orange, the bulb holders are designed for non clear bulbs, not amber like EF/EL etc

 

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just from an interests sake some of the new stuff is now 210000km for timing belts, and toyota has been 150000 for 8 or more years now so it pays to always check the schedule.
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thanks for the advice guys.... will check log books for the info

a 1.5L festiva is what were' getting, just need to save a little more
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:28 am 
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just from an interests sake some of the new stuff is now 210000km for timing belts, and toyota has been 150000 for 8 or more years now so it pays to always check the schedule.


Not even I knew that, Mazda BT etc still have the belts replaced at 100k, can't see Ford adding another 50K to the life by rebadging LOL

Many of the smarter companies went back to chains (I say smarter because I hated changing timing belts and can not see the point to belts any more) eg. Mazda's MZR engines or exactly the same thing Duratec 23.

 

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jonathon wrote:
my mate got a excel it has just ticked over 999,998 and its been servived every 10,000kms and never have any problems.


has he had it since new.... i hear those motors are dead at 200,000 and seen em come into work that are almost dead at around that age.



yes they have it since new back in 1997-1998


wtf! where did he go in 10 years to clock up a million klicks!!! :shock:

 

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yeh its the focus i was referring to with 210000km timing belts.
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yeh its the focus i was referring to with 210000km timing belts.


I will be honest and say I never checked when the timing belt was due on Focus, just serviced as per service manual and parked up :lol:

 

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jonathon wrote:
edfairmont4.0 wrote:
jonathon wrote:
my mate got a excel it has just ticked over 999,998 and its been servived every 10,000kms and never have any problems.


has he had it since new.... i hear those motors are dead at 200,000 and seen em come into work that are almost dead at around that age.



yes they have it since new back in 1997-1998


wtf! where did he go in 10 years to clock up a million klicks!!! :shock:



as macca said its all hwy kms from adelaide to pt augusta once a week and to bathurst once a year and even over to melbourne and back

 

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My aunt had the 1.5 twin cam Excel (99 model)

as long as you service them they last forever

hers had p/s a/c and great on fuel, heaps more power than the single cam one too.

Sold it after she passed away last september for $3,300 with 105,000 on the clock

 

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