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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:07 am 
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i'd go the hyundai unit over the kia (ooops, i meen ford...ford ford ford) meh both korean man. but personally i'd go the hyundai, mate's parents have one, 350000km on the clock, only problem they had was they didnt do the timing belt and it let go, but there all up and running again now so yeh...
all up to you...do you perfer kia or hyundai?

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:52 am 
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Mmmm they were the Kia Pride weren't they?

 

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:43 am 
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Kia Avella for the Asian Market, Ford Aspire for the US market, and Kia Pride for the euro market (only sold as sedan).

Regarding the clear corners, the 96+ had clear corners.

The gearboxes are generally what festiva (94 on) are famous for breaking- Though generally under stressed situations.

Another problem is the fading plastic headlamps. An easy enough fix with a bit of sandpaper and plastic polish.
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:37 am 
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:25 am 
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Ok, found a common problem so far.

timing belt failures seem to be common and usually result in damaged valvetrain

Been told these excels need new timing belt every 90,000kms...... not a good sign considering most people wouldnt bother if its running ok


just incase you dont know.
all cars with belt driven cams will need the cam belt changed between every 80,000 and 100,000kms or 10 years..
most people dont worrie or dont know about it ..
thats why they say its a common problem because they usually buy a car with just over 100,000 kms thinking its got low kms! lol but forget or dont know that the cam belt is part of the cars 80 or 100,000km service.and some people only change oil ect. and forget about the rubber belt driving the cam..and more than likely they fail just after they buy the car.


Also should be noted that engines running timing belts are free reving engines which mean that in the event of a belt breaking, the valve train will not collide with the piston because they don't go low enough into the chamber.

Truthfully i would steer clear of both excels and festi's would be more inclined to go to a older model corolla or laser or a nissan over them any day.

I have owned an excel (88 model) the only real fault i could put on it is a very noisy transmission (common) and leaky valve guides (also common) causing blue smoke at startup.

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:38 am 
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yeah nissan are good, but we cant find any suitable models in the '95 year range. Price range is about 4g

Excels seem to be very common which is good for spare parts availability, and have nice styling about them compared to others in the price range and year.

Trouble is we're looking for an auto and most small cars are manual
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:28 pm 
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After ALOT of research were still looking but know which cars to look for & which to keep clear of.

Some info for anyone interested:

Poor Build

Ford Festiva
Kia Rio & Mentor
Hyundai Excel
Holden Barina (pre XC model)
Daewoo Lanos

Better-than-average build

Honda Civic (post 94' model)
Toyota Echo & Starlet
Mitsubishi Lancer & Mirage (post 97' model)
Ford Laser (post KJ model)
Ford Ka
Mazda 323 (post 98' model)
Holden barina (post XC model)
Mazda 121
Hyundai Accent (slight improvement over Excel)
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:57 pm 
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I always knew excels were bad build quality. Had some friends playing soccer in the school carparks a few years back, kicked a ball and it landed bang in the middle of the boonet of an excel and the left-hand headlight shot out... random...

Someone in an Excel ran into the back of my friend at a roundabout and both headlights flew out and smashed. It was a feckin' slow collision aswell.

Thirdly, the EA ended its life by running into back of an Excel, only going about 25km/hr, it completely demolished the back-right of the car. The EA only suffered a bent axle and crumpled panels.

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:07 pm 
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After ALOT of research were still looking but know which cars to look for & which to keep clear of.

Some info for anyone interested:
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Better-than-average build
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Ford Ka
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gawd would not touch that piece of s**t with a barge pole!!! IIRC they don't even have an OHC engine!! like driving around in a 1970's model car mechanically with a body shape that will look futuristic and ugly in 1000 years time. there is one down the street from me that proves how bad their build quality is too - bits hanging off the POS everywhere....

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:10 pm 
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Punnisher_42 wrote:
FordFairmont wrote:
After ALOT of research were still looking but know which cars to look for & which to keep clear of.

Some info for anyone interested:
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Better-than-average build
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Ford Ka
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gawd would not touch that piece of s**t with a barge pole!!! ...


all the car reviews ive read praise that car, cant find anywhere that says bad about it? Plus the price they go for seems to reflect that to. But any input is good, cheers
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:45 pm 
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Punnisher_42 wrote:
FordFairmont wrote:
After ALOT of research were still looking but know which cars to look for & which to keep clear of.

Some info for anyone interested:
....
Better-than-average build
....
Ford Ka
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gawd would not touch that piece of s**t with a barge pole!!! IIRC they don't even have an OHC engine!! like driving around in a 1970's model car mechanically with a body shape that will look futuristic and ugly in 1000 years time. there is one down the street from me that proves how bad their build quality is too - bits hanging off the POS everywhere....


I'm with you there, and alot also get leaking heater boxes and their unit is really quite odd, they feel even cheaper inside to my festiva (despite being newer) and dont get anyone started on their styling (or lack thereof)
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:15 pm 
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anyone changed the HU on the excel


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