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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:10 am 
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We dyno tested my intake pipe on 3 cars with different lavels of modifications.

Firstly was my Fairlane Concorde with no engine modifications, 2.5" exhaust and SS CAI, i gained 1rwkw.

Second was data_mine's falcon, he has a stage 2 ALTED cam, 2.5" exhaust. he gained 2rwkw.

Last was fordfreak_ef's falcon, he has more extensive engine mod's but i'm not sure what exactly, he gained 2rwkw over his current 3" mandrel bend intake, would be a greater difference over stock intake. My intake pipe is alot shorter and more direct than his current system.

these runs were straight swap over with no time given for the computer to adapt and learn. after 500km or so the figures should improve.

the A/F ratio was also improved in data_mine's car that does not have a chip installed or been tuned.

Hope this helps and gives you an idea over the different types of pipes being made. i will post pictures of my intake this afternoon hopefully.

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:20 pm 
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awesome

basically what we needed to hear :)

was this with the fatory filter or a high flow ie K+n

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:20 pm 
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So it increased top power by reducing the length of the piping. BUt what was tyhe damage done to the low down torque!?!

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:54 pm 
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we haven't received the torque figures yet. However as a rough guide, by the seat of the pants driving, it feels like it has increased bottom end torque slightly. the torque figures should be coming this week (we forgot to get him to print it out seperately).

the power increase was right the way through the range.

we were all running a K&N panel filter.

should have also mentioned that the fordfreak was not running an air filter on his first run, so the increase was from running my pipe and a filter. if he hadn't puit the fliter in it would have been a greater difference and a fairer comparison. But this should give people a fair indication of what a pipe will do for them.

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:33 pm 
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So it increased top power by reducing the length of the piping. BUt what was tyhe damage done to the low down torque!?!


Yeah, I would have expected torque to suffer as well.

If it actually gained torque AND power, I'd like to know how much they are?
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:37 pm 
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1 rwkw....not much...and not worth the $$$ and fustration to put one it ..... so i reckon

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:44 pm 
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1 rwkw....not much...and not worth the $$$ and fustration to put one it ..... so i reckon


It depends. If it genuinly improves RWK by 1-2 kw throughout the entire rev range AND increases torque as well (depending on price, of course) it's definantley worth it.
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:49 pm 
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if it increases power torque and efficiency it is worth it in my opinion.

As i said though, that is just changing the pipe over with no learn time for the computer, it will change after 500 or so km.

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:05 pm 
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And whats the the price of the pipe? for 1-2kw it would would wanna be bloody cheap :P

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:06 pm 
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So how much are they? Including shipping?
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:25 pm 
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How'd you go with the picutres?

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:02 pm 
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this the only photo we have of it so far.

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:33 pm 
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this intake got 8rwhp gain on the dyno. Can someone make these up, i would be happy to buy one that looked like this.

 

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:52 pm 
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it would be good to see if it usees less fuel to on a good run
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:13 pm 
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Atleast for once a cosmetic upgrade didnt reduce power. 1 or 2 kws is still an increase...

Did you dyno bonnet up or down? be interesting to see how the new metal pipe copes with heat soak.
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