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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:52 pm 
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:53 pm 
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a Nice GT35/40 on the side of the ED motor would begin to keep some of the other sports sedans in check.

 

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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:07 pm 
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Don't under estimate the torque of the sohc 6 But yes all things being equal a GT3540 or bigger GT45 would haul a**!!! Don't see too many S.R Nissans with much over 500 h.p... 4.0 would do that easy and stay within factory rev range..I'd swap rods and pistons tho to stronger speck..Same as would be done to an SR20.....
Um?? Not tooo sure about the T5 though ??? No power shifting...

 

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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:34 pm 
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Don't under estimate the torque of the sohc 6 But yes all things being equal a GT3540 or bigger GT45 would haul a**!!! Don't see too many S.R Nissans with much over 500 h.p... 4.0 would do that easy and stay within factory rev range..I'd swap rods and pistons tho to stronger speck..Same as would be done to an SR20.....
Um?? Not tooo sure about the T5 though ??? No power shifting...


Just remember its circuit racing, not drag racing.
4.0ls arent good for it compared to a SR
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:55 pm 
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a ford into a holden!! ha, lets see what the purists have to say about this.

you know, you should make a triple webber manifold for the 4.0l, just to really rub it in!

 

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a ford into a holden!! ha, lets see what the purists have to say about this.

you know, you should make a triple webber manifold for the 4.0l, just to really rub it in!


least it might actually go somewhere now ;)

TORANA = Ton Of Rust And No Acceleration (until powered by a Ford 4L!!)

 

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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:52 am 
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a ford into a holden!! ha, lets see what the purists have to say about this.

you know, you should make a triple webber manifold for the 4.0l, just to really rub it in!


We have actually been considering the webber setup, we have 3 45's from the old torana engine laying around. would a manifold be hard to create for the 4.0lt?
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:52 pm 
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eed-250 - the good old falcon six will eat the SR20 on average torque. SR20's peak will be higher (say hello turbocharger) but in a super sedan a fat torque curve across the whole rev range will really make it a weapon.

 

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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:02 pm 
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^^ for the same amount of cash,
ill build the sr20 and he can build the ford motor.
i garuntee mine would be more realiable and much quicker around the track :D
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:29 pm 
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hahaha, i was kinda joking but... if you can fit a 4.0 into the engine bay, there should be enough room for a webber manifold, even if you have to cut away abit of the shock towers. As for making it, copy the flange design from your current manifold and adapt some runners to meet the webbers. the hardest part i think will be making the beast run
ie (fuel injection -> carby) the 4.0l packed full of sensors and s**t, which oviously requires a computer to measure imputs and adjust A/F ratios ECT

maybe if somhow you could retain the webbers to use soley as throttle boddies with maybe a hidden injection system underneath the runners???

either way, good luck mate[/quote]

 

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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:25 am 
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^^ for the same amount of cash,
ill build the sr20 and he can build the ford motor.
i garuntee mine would be more realiable and much quicker around the track :D




get over the SR20 already. they are not the be all and end all of engines.
hell i work on and modify the things every day. i'm in the middle of putting together my bosses SR20 right now. it should end up with about 500 to 550hp using 8500rpm and around 28psi of boost from a 620hp turbonetics turbo.

and i still think the 4L would be a better choice of engine for this aplication.

for a few simple reasons at that power level the SR20 is realying to much on revs. turbo is usless below 4500rpm. the SR20 will have less torque and would be a b**ch to keep on boost.

the 4L would use less revs, have more torque and because of the long stroke they spool turbos lower in the revs making it easy to keep on boost.

or you could keep it N/A and use crows big cam. (up to 6000rpm) and have a nice wide power band. so you are not constantly searching for the right gear.

 

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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:12 am 
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or you could keep it N/A and use crows big cam. (up to 6000rpm) and have a nice wide power band. so you are not constantly searching for the right gear.


thats the plan for now and late on turbo will be the go! :D

p.s sorry about the delay of pics hopefully tomorrow i can "borrow" my mates camera for the day and get some pics up. 8-)
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another big snag hit! oil pump fowls on the crossmember, does anyone know of a shorter oil pump which would match up to the falcon block? either that or one that faces another way? creating the pick up wont be a problem but the oil pump is a head scratcher.
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Gaz wrote:
tickford_EB wrote:
a ford into a holden!! ha, lets see what the purists have to say about this.

you know, you should make a triple webber manifold for the 4.0l, just to really rub it in!


least it might actually go somewhere now ;)

TORANA = Ton Of Rust And No Acceleration (until powered by a Ford 4L!!)


I don't know about that man, i know of more than a few wickedly fast torry's, and when i get my turbo motor built for it, and the right clutch setup, it should be pretty fast as well. :D

Ton of Rust, well mine has a bit, but what can you expect from 31yrs in the weather & 250k or so kms.... A ton of it, no. Small amount in lower rear quarters and a bit under the dash in the air vent area. Elsewise the car is pretty straight and rust free....

I would like to see my EB take the punishment that my torry has taken and be running still! I've even been hit in the a*** @ 60kph and it's repairable, going into the panel shop for that and rust repair soon, in next few mths. Then i can start to build the turbo motor for it.....

A guy in perth has a 202 with a T04 @ 481 RWHP. In a 1200ish kg torry, if that ain't tough and fast, i dunno what is! :D

Don't get my wrong tho, i love my EB as well, but i miss driving my torry. Can't wait to get it all finished and drivable again.

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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:47 pm 
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another big snag hit! oil pump fowls on the crossmember, does anyone know of a shorter oil pump which would match up to the falcon block? either that or one that faces another way? creating the pick up wont be a problem but the oil pump is a head scratcher.



i know this is not a cheap way out but you could run a drysump system.
moroso make a few different ones worth looking at

 

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