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 Post subject: Re: Advancing the timing
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:45 pm 
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Thats 100% untrue. Look at this too. You want to make sure you are getting it correct.

http://www.injectronics.com.au/index.ph ... &Itemid=34
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 Post subject: Re: Advancing the timing
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:51 pm 
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By reading that link, I have to wait 2 minutes until I can set the timing, then I have 2 minutes to advance the dizzy or I have to start all over again?
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 Post subject: Re: Advancing the timing
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:35 pm 
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if you do it corectly it will do this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJQpSyDMA2E

this clip shows what happens when the el ecu goes into timing mode..
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 Post subject: Re: Advancing the timing
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:04 pm 
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Seen that video before, is that yours? How much is that advanced by?
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 Post subject: Re: Advancing the timing
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:13 pm 
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yea thats a vid i did a few years back, when its in timing mode, its advanced aprox 2 deg..
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 Post subject: Re: Advancing the timing
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:29 am 
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SLO247 wrote:
Thats 100% untrue. Look at this too. You want to make sure you are getting it correct.

http://www.injectronics.com.au/index.ph ... &Itemid=34

whats 100% untrue?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Advancing the timing
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:47 am 
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IF that was where your mark was at. at idle. with it in diagnostic mode. and when the timing light flashed. that timing would be extremely retarded

 

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 Post subject: Re: Advancing the timing
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:32 pm 
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bry40l wrote:
SLO247 wrote:
Thats 100% untrue. Look at this too. You want to make sure you are getting it correct.

http://www.injectronics.com.au/index.ph ... &Itemid=34

whats 100% untrue?


The other window licker your age saying timing can't be adjusted on an EL.

Just stirring. :P
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 Post subject: Re: Advancing the timing
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:35 pm 
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Is this true for advancing the timing, if you turn the dizzy 1.5mm it equals 1 degree?
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 Post subject: Re: Advancing the timing
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:04 pm 
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SLO247 wrote:
bry40l wrote:
SLO247 wrote:
Thats 100% untrue. Look at this too. You want to make sure you are getting it correct.

http://www.injectronics.com.au/index.ph ... &Itemid=34

whats 100% untrue?


The other window licker your age saying timing can't be adjusted on an EL.

Just stirring. :P

yeah thought it was aimed at him just wanted to know lol

 

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 Post subject: Re: Advancing the timing
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:28 pm 
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I ain't no f**k window licker . What I am saying is yes u can alter the timing but the Ecu will take over.

Have a read
ford-4l-and-6-cylinder-f1/

 

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 Post subject: Re: Advancing the timing
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:47 pm 
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the ecu does control the timing but thats adjusted from the base setting,
the factory base setting for el is 0 deg, but the ecu map at idle is around 20 deg btdc,
so at idle the normal ign timing is 20 deg..

now advance your base timing to 2 deg btdc and the ecu map is still 20 deg but the normal timing is now really 22 deg because the base timing is 2 deg advanced...

the ecu always thinks the base timing is correct and does not know if its advanced or retarded...
thats why it will ping if you advance the base timing to much, advance the base timing to 8 deg btdc, now the ecu map will still idle at 20 deg because the map never changes, but now with 8 deg of added base timing the real timing is now 28 deg btdc...
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 Post subject: Re: Advancing the timing
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:57 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
the ecu does control the timing but thats adjusted from the base setting,
the factory base setting for el is 0 deg, but the ecu map at idle is around 20 deg btdc,
so at idle the normal ign timing is 20 deg..

now advance your base timing to 2 deg btdc and the ecu map is still 20 deg but the normal timing is now really 22 deg because the base timing is 2 deg advanced...

the ecu always thinks the base timing is correct and does not know if its advanced or retarded...
thats why it will ping if you advance the base timing to much, advance the base timing to 8 deg btdc, now the ecu map will still idle at 20 deg because the map never changes, but now with 8 deg of added base timing the real timing is now 28 deg btdc...


+1, I think the only time the ECU will kick in or take over, is when the knock sensors work it will just retard the timing and make the car run like a dog.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Advancing the timing
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:32 pm 
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How far have people gotten before it gets knocked back? Does it vary from car to car?
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 Post subject: Re: Advancing the timing
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:33 pm 
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mine was advanced 4 degrees and I was using BP Ulitmate98. I'm sure it could be advanced a little more but the tuner never tried.

 

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